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we're here welcome back

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to calling all bees I'm your host DJ and

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I'm gonna tell you what's going on today

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we don't got the money but we got the

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time

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himself to take care of some business

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and if you want to know what kind of

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business none of yours baby but he's

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taking care now he's hanging out with

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family today uh but you know what we got

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Deb a study of uaps who's gonna take

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hold of Nathan Chango look I got

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something for you right here man I got

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some question what's up Debs hi

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everybody happy Sunday

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happy Sunday to you buddy uh I know

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you're up to the task but you know what

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we're gonna bring in report and

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reinforcements because we got the new

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cabbie in that house he's from Bolton

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he's a musician and he's a bat

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uh

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his name is Frank Jones so you ain't foe

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thinker baby

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how's it going everybody making my

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official Cubs debut today I've had a

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nice day relaxing with the family and uh

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very happy to be here hope everybody's

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doing well

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it's an honor to have you to bring you

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in on uh your your first episode Frank

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and I had a self-edit when I was saying

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bat mother you know what I'm saying but

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it wasn't enough to just have you so we

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had to bring in another intelligent

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brother he's from the he from the other

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side from Yorkshire put your hands

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just shifting gears man he about to kick

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off another UFO podcast but still he's

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not gonna let me announce it so we're

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gonna have to wait right Davey I can

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tell you the name of it

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okay let's do it man what's it called it

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yes the mechanism can we say who you're

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absolutely please do

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ukuap Ash the former brother who was

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working for the gov in the UK he's a

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he's also a badass or so uh I'm so happy

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man that you guys are gonna get it

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together we can't wait to uh somehow

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contribute to your show in some way and

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uh and try to you know like push it out

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there but you know what uh we got to get

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to the guests of honor today don't we

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yeah we do we do Frank's not in his head

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he said get time he said get to it also

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all right now

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all right so uh you know we really

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wanted to do an episode of uh about

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ancient structures and I was trying to

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think of you know I think it the idea

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came from listening to Dan talk on our

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show about it a little bit and then uh

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after that I was listening to Frank show

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and heard uh Dave talking about it and

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I'm like ooh how cool would it be to put

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Tennessee and Manchester together so uh

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with that I asked these two gentlemen if

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they would like to do it and it just

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took us a couple months and the holidays

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and everything else to get it together

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so without further ado

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he is a UFO Twitter and Tick Tock scent

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sensation who ain't got time for the

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drama but plenty of time for

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contextualization and information you

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all know him as hey look over there Dan

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Warren

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we'll hear you

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hey man for Dan Warren that's all I got

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to say

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um and on the other side of the Ledger

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on the other side of the pond we have a

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man who know a lot about a lot because

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he reads and he done educated himself

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about the world and he Ponders both past

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present and future okay and guess what

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you're like why doesn't he have his own

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pocket he don't need to because he'd go

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on other people's podcasts and bring the

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noise so put your hands together for

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there it wait let me get him on this is

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there he is hello everybody great to see

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you yeah yeah oh my God what an

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introduction hey man I wrote that just

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for you David man your man that got a

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not a lot of knowledge man well I mean I

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mean got a good company here I mean it's

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just an interest with me really but yeah

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I'm looking forward to this this should

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be a good chance and you kids in

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Manchester this is what you know what if

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you go and get educated you kids in

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Tennessee you gonna read you do your

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school work you study stuff like that

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you're gonna end up like Dan Warren if

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you're in Manchester you can end up like

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Dave Smothers okay that's what's up all

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right so when you first mentioned that I

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was going to be on a show with a guy

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from Manchester

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I don't know if you guys know what

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Bonnaroo is the Music Festival held I've

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heard of it it's held in the city of

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Manchester Tennessee so I thought I was

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just going to drive down the road and

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sit in a room with this guy and have a

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conversation with you guys so I didn't

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know this was across an ocean

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yes and it's not Manchester New

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Hampshire either right we went even

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farther to get Dave

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Dave

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um do you sound like any of the Beatles

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is there are you channeling either uh

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you've told me that DJ I can't hear it

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it's a bit of nuance in England between

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the Manchester and the Liverpool accent

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but I suspect you guys can't really hear

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it I mean we do sound pretty similar and

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we can go like that and talk like that

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and then it sounds very similar you know

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oh it sounds like Harley obviously

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no you know we don't do that I saw that

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Game of Thrones at that point so it's

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it's very uh you know yeah when Drew's

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coming he sounds a lot more like one of

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the Gallagher brothers out of Oasis

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Don't you Dad yeah yeah hey now now I've

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I love it man I love these accents all

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right I want to kick it off Brothers

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um

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and I want to ask you guys uh just a

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general question and then we'll just you

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know we'll go to Debs Frank and Davey

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Davey's our our guest co-host today

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thank you so much Davey for doing this

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it's an honor to have you it's an honor

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to have everybody here actually

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so as we know

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um that these ancient structures that

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you guys have looked at throughout the

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course of your lives

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um can tell us a lot about the past I'm

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curious I'd like to go to Dave first and

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then uh Dan with this question uh what

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can it tell us about our future

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uh looking at either one or more of

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these structures that that you guys have

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thought about

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well that's an interesting question uh

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what could it tell us about our future

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what do you mean DJ do you mean in terms

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of uh what what that's where the tech

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might take us or yeah anything is there

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something I wanted to like ask a

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question that as I look at these you

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know we always look at them and think

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past and so I started thinking well is

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there any is can they tell us anything

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about their future can they tell us

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something we've missed can they tell us

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uh possibly where we're going can they

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tell us where we need to go

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um yeah

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I think I mean there's a bit I was going

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to talk about about 40 minutes in but we

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might as well uh

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talk about it now really there is an

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argument but we have missed a bit of a

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trick as a civilization we use my you

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know Force wide electricity nuclear

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power mechanical advantage very much

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what we use and there's a lot of

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evidence that these ancient

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civilizations which I'll Backtrack on

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that didn't use that sort of thing they

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may well have manipulated learn how to

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manipulate force force technology you

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know like field technology effectively

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like anti-grav like Sonic Sonic's is a

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big one like electromagnetic stuff it

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also might have uh learned out of power

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to use geomagnetic power electromagnetic

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power like Tesla from the clouds and

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also the amount of Master some sort of

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sciability like uh telekinesis

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controlling matter they've understood

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someone about the quantum and their

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technology consequently we don't see it

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because it could look very different to

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ours and so therefore

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there may be a well something might tell

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us that we've missed a big technological

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trick and that's the sort of thing we

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may be seeing from other crafter or

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whatever there is a whole new

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technological world out there there's

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also evidence that the amount of very

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much synchronized their sort of

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agricultural production and science with

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the living in a very sort of quite

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harmonious way so it may be we're

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looking at our own scientific future But

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the irony is it's so different to ours

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but we don't see it we look at something

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it's a quaint Temple or a lovely little

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statue or a nice little Obelisk and it

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might be actually be something else now

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it takes a lot to get to that statement

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I've just said but to answer that

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question that's potentially what it

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tells about our future but we've missed

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the trick and there may be over

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technological things and it might be

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that the others as I said yeah whatever

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you want to call them tell us that as

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well you know so that's that's to get

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you going anyway

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and thank you Dave I appreciate that

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that answer that that does kind of where

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the you kind of gave us the direction

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Dan so I think I'm a on a similar

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wavelength as Dave I do believe that our

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ancients are forefathers which I want to

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make sure that something that I really

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enjoy about studying these ancient

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structures in this ancient past is that

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it's Humanity's history it's not in my

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opinion a particular race or division of

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humanities history it is world history

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it is our history we all get to look at

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it and appreciate it and that's one of

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the things that makes me

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um so impressed by it is it is a

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a picture of the greatness that Humanity

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can accomplish if they put put their

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mind to it and put their effort into it

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and we should all be grateful for our

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ancients to have done things like that

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that have lasted so long because we

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don't have anything we have very few

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things that exist in the world today

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that are going to stand the test of time

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like these structures have in the past

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so it's a testament to their Ingenuity

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their

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um that that it's still there and that

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one thing that I just said that their

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way of thinking is what I think our

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future has in store for us we think in a

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certain way just like Dave was saying

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what if instead of finding

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petrochemicals we found some other way

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to power our society we would have a

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completely different looking technology

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that surrounds us right now just like

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Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison were

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going back and forth over AC and DC

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power 1-1 lost arts our society looks

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completely different because of that one

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change in the approach to solving a

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problem who knows how many times we've

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solved problems that have had that large

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of an impact in our in Humanity's past

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one of the things that I think is

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probably it's mainstream for nerds like

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me that are into this thing but maybe

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not to just the regular person that's

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just going about their daily business is

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that our society our Humanity has been

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reset in the past

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that to me is something that we need to

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learn from it's happened again it's

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happened before it's gonna happen again

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we need to be prepared for it we need to

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make to take steps to have counter

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measures in place to be able to survive

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and thrive in a post problem uh world so

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what I'm referring to is something

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that's probably also better kept for 40

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minutes into a podcast but there was an

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event that happened 11 600 years ago

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that basically wiped the Slate clean

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we don't remember the details of what

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happened in the past

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beyond that Mark that's what I'm most

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excited about in the future is

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discovering what types of

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advancements were made prior to that re

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that big reset that occurred back then

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so that's what I think we're going to

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find we're gonna we're gonna refine

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ourselves we're gonna refine a

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technology that our forefathers had that

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degraded over time and you can see it in

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the way that the megalithic structures

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at these sites were built the the

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biggest stuff the coolest stuff the most

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precise stuff is always at the bottom

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it's always the oldest stuff and it's

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always the best stuff so that's that's

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what I'm looking forward to in the

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future is learning more about our past

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and being able to utilize it to try to

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make Humanity better

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can I get an amen for both those answers

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from both David Smithers and Dan Warren

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uh both of you guys have just won a can

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of DJ organic skin care and in this case

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a mustache and beard uh what do you call

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it uh uh conditioner I guess you call

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because I made it extra thick with more

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beeswax for the guys uh for the girls

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it's a little more creamy-ish beard by

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the way I think that's beard bomb beard

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bomb yeah yeah thank you brother

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somebody that's actually in touch with

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modern society uh Dan Warren unlike

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myself uh all right uh so what I think

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we should do guys as I pass it to Debs

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uh and you're right I mean just with

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what you guys two said we say thanks

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folks have a good night that's all we

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have for you because that was that was a

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banger from both of you but before I

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pass it uh to Debs I think what we

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should do here is each question we

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should have uh both Dan and Dave

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entertain so we'll just do one two one

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two punch on on that so uh Deb's uh may

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I pass it over to you Ma'am yeah I mean

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I had the same thought about that Gap in

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knowledge that is really peculiar

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um so for instance I was studying the

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Mounds in North America which were

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considered prehistoric and they asked

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indigenous people about them and they

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didn't exactly know the history and

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that's very unusual and in Egypt they

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had hieroglyphs and were writing things

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down and they don't seem to know how

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pyramids were made so that's unusual so

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what are your thoughts about that

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rewrite or that Erasure of that

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knowledge

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uh uh I mean I think it's the old Graham

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Hancock thinking it a species with uh

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Amnesia really it does seem that a lot

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of the techniques that we use to build

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the pyramids uh but to do all that well

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actually people didn't have the tools to

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do that and sold us clearly some sort of

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Disconnect there

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as Dan was alluding to a lot of these

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civilizations but emerged uh you know

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the oldest one sits in the most

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sophisticated and deteriorating so it's

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and like with the mound building stuff

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that seems to be linked to a whole other

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type of uh Southern USA type population

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just under because a lot of this

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civilization we're talking about was

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probably around the old Ice Age

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boundaries you know with a big ice wall

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going right down into the USA and so

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those that they were probably remnants

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about earlier civilizations were much

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more Civic in the nature and urbanized

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and those Mounds are sort of like the

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relics of that they've been built on you

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know on a longer time so I think really

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uh

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I think a lot of those the oldest of

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those civilizations in many ways occupy

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previous ruins and previous things and

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we see little glimpses and fragments of

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some tech they might have used some

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memories of science or what they might

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have done but really the main stuff has

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sort of vanished I mean remember most of

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the

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centers are reckoned to be now

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underwater and so you you could see the

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Indus Valley civilizations the Sumerian

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civilizations they were merely sort of

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pale reflections of the other

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civilization who are now submerged and

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emerged backwards would explain this

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gradual deterioration the first people

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retreated back as it were to form new

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cities and gradually for Garland attack

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over time so I don't know if that

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answers your question Deb I'm not sure

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really but uh that for it's that old

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there is a big gap between this ancient

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civilization and our new one and I

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suppose there's these Tales of ancient

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civilizers who came out from the

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destroyed civilization to teach people

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again you know how to do Agriculture and

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all the rest of it like glow Becky

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I'm gonna tag on to something that Dave

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just said uh we were talking about what

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do we hope is going to happen in the

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future for Humanity if you guys are

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familiar with lidar and the technology

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has been used to scan the uh Amazon and

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they find just a enormous amount of

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construction that we can't see with the

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naked eye we can't see from a plane but

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this technology allows us to pull back

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the dirt the trees the the underbrush

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and see things that we haven't been able

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to see before one of the advancements in

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technology that I'm hoping is going to

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become feasible and widespread across

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the globe would be something to address

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just what Dave said which is to have to

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develop a lidar type system that could

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be used on the coastlines from 400 feet

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below sea level which is that 11 600

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years ago time frame the water erodes

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the sea level Rose about 400 feet across

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the board elevations of land has changed

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alongside that when the glaciers melted

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and started moving the ice from certain

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locations to other locations but in

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general

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400 feet sea rise over a thousand years

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or so changed the face of civilization

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on this planet and if we can develop a

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technology that allows us to use sonar

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or something to just like we did in the

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Amazon scan the sea floor for the first

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400 feet from our shorelines we're going

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to discover things that we didn't know

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existed that are just rumors and handed

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down from generation to generation that

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eventually became myth and lower and no

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one believed them just like No One

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Believes people when these ancient

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civilizations when they say that they

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inherited structures that they inherited

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sites that's something that is

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a standard model for Humanity for

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civilizations if there's something

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significant of significant reverence in

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a location it's been built there for

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certain reasons maybe it's a proximity

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to water maybe it's a high elevation or

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something like that

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Humanity has a habit and has developed a

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pattern of building on ancient

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structures and improving upon them over

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time so if you look at churches in Peru

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they're built on the

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the foundations of older structures if

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you look at Machu Picchu in particular

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there's three different types of

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megalithic architectural ex that you can

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see in one location they have the more

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more recent stuff that's small blocky

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and a lot of mortar they have older

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stuff which is a little bit better and

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then they have some stuff that just does

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not belong with the with the rest of it

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and it is true megalithic architecture

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it's different so there's there's a lot

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in our past that's been forgotten and

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there's a lot that has been hidden

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because we've covered it up with our

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modern technology so hopefully we'll

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start to learn more about it as time

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goes on and one thing I wanted to point

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out that Deb was talking about the the

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Indian Mounds in the southeast United

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States in particular I've been following

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this guy I don't know if you can see

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this on my phone Dr Greg Little

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Dr Greg Little two is his handle on

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Twitter he's a professor somewhere

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around this Southeast and he posts more

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information about ancient Indian mounds

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than anyone I've ever known I've only

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been following them for about two months

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but I've blown away by the volume of

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information he's been he's been able to

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put on Twitter on a regular basis about

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Indian mounds and Indian civilization

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and advancements that they they were

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able to accomplish back then so it's

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it's been an amazing he's an amazing guy

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to follow because it's just a Non-Stop

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flow of cool ancient Indian Mound

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technology and uh and information

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in a city near you most likely

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well I was going to say I have Indian

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mounds uh not 200 yards from my house uh

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in the back the back woods over there

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there's three or four or five of them

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Unfortunately they sold the land and

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yeah it is Florida so they're going to

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develop it into condos as as we do

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because we don't we can't have nice

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things uh and there is really strangely

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uh piles of like clam shells that looks

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like someone brought clams and and

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consumed them and then deposited them in

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a central location and it started making

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me somebody told me that would be Native

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Americans I started thinking I thought

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that and then I'm like might be Bigfoot

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but anyway I don't know because uh they

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they have a tendency to harvest those

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those kinds of things to eat as well uh

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but with that let me uh pass it over to

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yeah so I was um kind of wondering if if

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you guys have like a specific site uh

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somewhere around the world that you're

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particularly interested in you know

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perhaps you could talk about it a little

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bit

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um particularly interested in a site

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that you might be familiar with that has

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quite a lot of work done in terms of

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like scientific analysis on you know the

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the buildings or you know the dating of

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of the objects and things in that kind

547
00:22:37,070 --> 00:22:35,400
of area so uh yeah be really interested

548
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,080
to hear

549
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,360
I mean to be honest being frank I've not

550
00:22:43,250 --> 00:22:41,280
got there's a few that I would follow

551
00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:43,260
with sites I wouldn't got into any

552
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:45,240
really massively but one of the most

553
00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:47,460
important ones is the Sarah pm at Sakara

554
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,460
yeah well you've got down London it's a

555
00:22:54,169 --> 00:22:52,320
big complex the Egyptian pyramids were

556
00:22:56,270 --> 00:22:54,179
built in fields effectively most of them

557
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,280
on the west of the Nile and that's one

558
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,320
of the earliest ones and there's a big

559
00:23:02,990 --> 00:23:00,720
there's a big one of the oldest pyramids

560
00:23:04,730 --> 00:23:03,000
I think he's dozak and the Dozer I can

561
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,740
never quite pronounce it anyway within

562
00:23:08,690 --> 00:23:06,720
that complex there's this Sarah PM going

563
00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:08,700
on the ground and you'll all be familiar

564
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:10,860
with that because it's got 20 I had 24

565
00:23:18,250 --> 00:23:13,919
of these massive Granite 100 ton type

566
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:18,260
blocks perfectly machined perfect Lids

567
00:23:24,169 --> 00:23:21,120
uh all buried on the ground it's very

568
00:23:26,270 --> 00:23:24,179
difficult to see how any even if we the

569
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,280
take or get actually maneuver them

570
00:23:30,350 --> 00:23:28,799
underground where they were laid out and

571
00:23:32,210 --> 00:23:30,360
uh and it didn't seem to have much

572
00:23:34,430 --> 00:23:32,220
purposely pretty plain they're perfectly

573
00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:34,440
machined made out of granite very hard

574
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,780
to work and they seem to have some

575
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,880
technological purpose in my view but we

576
00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:40,799
don't quite understand coming back to my

577
00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:43,140
first answer and that to me is one of

578
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,720
the most fascinating sites because it's

579
00:23:49,130 --> 00:23:47,520
very plain you've actually got some

580
00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:49,140
hieroglyphics on them but they were

581
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:51,240
obviously chiseled later on again by

582
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:54,480
these earlier older or later Egyptian

583
00:23:58,010 --> 00:23:56,159
civilized age you can see the difference

584
00:23:59,450 --> 00:23:58,020
in the deck apparently they were

585
00:24:01,850 --> 00:23:59,460
polished they had some sort of Polish

586
00:24:03,730 --> 00:24:01,860
because you can't make chronic shine so

587
00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:03,740
the level of technology is amazing

588
00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:06,780
they're not I cannot iconographic in

589
00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:08,460
terms of the religious artifacts or

590
00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:09,720
anything like that there's nothing on

591
00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:11,880
them very difficult to move very

592
00:24:16,130 --> 00:24:13,860
difficult to maneuver so how did you do

593
00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:16,140
it and what was the purpose and to me it

594
00:24:20,570 --> 00:24:17,700
looks very much like they had some

595
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:20,580
production or energy generating purpose

596
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:23,039
and so that's a really fascinating one

597
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,100
for me Frank the Sarah PM of clearly the

598
00:24:29,870 --> 00:24:27,840
Great Pyramids of interest because well

599
00:24:32,029 --> 00:24:29,880
that's probably everybody sort of looks

600
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,039
at that I suppose and there's loads of

601
00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:34,320
really interesting ones because I the

602
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:37,080
way I look at it is my view is try to

603
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,400
understand these little ancient

604
00:24:42,169 --> 00:24:40,080
fragments of what this earlier

605
00:24:43,789 --> 00:24:42,179
civilization was like that was the point

606
00:24:45,649 --> 00:24:43,799
of Graham Hancock's fingerprint so the

607
00:24:47,930 --> 00:24:45,659
gods title you know you could just

608
00:24:50,090 --> 00:24:47,940
slightly see the evidence so for me when

609
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:50,100
I look at ancient sites to try and pick

610
00:24:53,930 --> 00:24:52,500
up things that indicate where they were

611
00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:53,940
at what level they were at and what they

612
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,000
were doing what the Sarah PM is one of

613
00:25:01,850 --> 00:24:59,039
particular interest to me because it's

614
00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:01,860
almost like a plane Smoking Gun as it

615
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:08,810
so I'll let me add on to that serpentium

616
00:25:14,270 --> 00:25:10,440
discussion and Davey correct me if I'm

617
00:25:16,190 --> 00:25:14,280
wrong but if I'm not mistaken I think uh

618
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,200
but I am all right so this is me

619
00:25:20,029 --> 00:25:18,000
speculating on things that I don't have

620
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:20,039
any business speculating on

621
00:25:25,450 --> 00:25:22,020
um one that's what we're here for one

622
00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:28,789
unestablished or unconfirmed is that the

623
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,380
older stuff does not have writing on it

624
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:33,360
anywhere in the world that's right yeah

625
00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:36,240
it seems like there was a a time when

626
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:39,000
people just wanted the architecture the

627
00:25:44,029 --> 00:25:41,700
megaliths to speak for themselves and

628
00:25:46,669 --> 00:25:44,039
then after that like you look at the

629
00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:46,679
Egyptian uh temples and things like that

630
00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:49,620
they put hieroglyphs on everything so to

631
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:52,440
me the Sarah PM is enigmatic for the

632
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:54,840
sheer fact that that is an anomaly in

633
00:26:00,049 --> 00:25:56,700
Egypt that they built these amazing

634
00:26:01,130 --> 00:26:00,059
things and they didn't sign them they

635
00:26:03,289 --> 00:26:01,140
didn't put their signature on them

636
00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:03,299
anywhere the pyramids don't the Great

637
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,340
Pyramid doesn't have anything carved

638
00:26:09,529 --> 00:26:07,440
into it originally so it seems like the

639
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,539
older the things that have the mystery

640
00:26:15,529 --> 00:26:12,000
around them that could potentially be

641
00:26:17,390 --> 00:26:15,539
older than we realize are not marked

642
00:26:19,789 --> 00:26:17,400
that's something that I find really

643
00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:19,799
fascinating and Dave if I'm not mistaken

644
00:26:24,890 --> 00:26:21,720
I think there's something else about the

645
00:26:27,370 --> 00:26:24,900
Sarah PM that reminds me of the the

646
00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:27,380
stone of the pregnant woman in Turkey

647
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,260
where the there there was one of these

648
00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:34,559
giant 100 ton uh they called them bull

649
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,919
uh coffins I believe they don't really

650
00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:39,600
know what they're for but one of them

651
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,460
was actually in the hallway getting

652
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:43,679
ready to be ready to be moved in place

653
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:46,559
so it hadn't actually been set in its

654
00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:48,659
chamber that had been designated for it

655
00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:50,820
so it's almost like something had they

656
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,220
were in the process of making these

657
00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:55,919
things something happened and they just

658
00:26:59,930 --> 00:26:58,620
called it off walked away and left it as

659
00:27:05,510 --> 00:26:59,940
is

660
00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:05,520
yeah there's one of them but they left

661
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:07,380
and there's one of them about a crack in

662
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,000
it in the granite and if you look at the

663
00:27:13,130 --> 00:27:10,799
way they were worked they tried to get

664
00:27:14,690 --> 00:27:13,140
all the cracks out of them so they were

665
00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:14,700
more stable you know in the structure

666
00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:16,440
and that clearly again indicates an

667
00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:18,600
industrial process so there's one that

668
00:27:21,289 --> 00:27:19,980
had a big crack in it so they've been

669
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,299
working but there's another one I think

670
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,279
the one you're talking about and it's

671
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,200
similar in a lot of ancient sites over

672
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,120
the world there's bowed back there's the

673
00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:29,279
the quarries near gizae where they're

674
00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:31,620
doing all the obelisks where some of

675
00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:33,900
these things have just been left as if

676
00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:35,460
people were working on them as one in

677
00:27:40,850 --> 00:27:38,220
China as well and something happened

678
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,860
and the art so that might well have

679
00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:42,960
happened there as well but uh so it

680
00:27:46,909 --> 00:27:44,940
that's another interesting factor which

681
00:27:50,649 --> 00:27:46,919
ties into this subject we might not have

682
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:50,659
time for it today that of cataclysm and

683
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:53,039
civilizations just keep happening on a

684
00:27:57,289 --> 00:27:54,960
regular basis and I don't want to go we

685
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,299
can get into that we want but it could

686
00:28:00,590 --> 00:27:59,279
well be we have successive Cycles in

687
00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:00,600
this and that would answer the question

688
00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:02,760
we've been around for what 300 000 years

689
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,460
200 000 years and atomically humans and

690
00:28:09,529 --> 00:28:07,200
we might just get to a certain point all

691
00:28:10,850 --> 00:28:09,539
the time and something happens because

692
00:28:12,289 --> 00:28:10,860
that would explain why we haven't

693
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,299
Advanced further in that time wouldn't

694
00:28:16,010 --> 00:28:13,919
it but anyway that's quite a bit of the

695
00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:16,020
point but yeah and so there's one that's

696
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:17,820
got a crack in it which evidences that

697
00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:19,380
there were more bothered about function

698
00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:21,720
than anything else and there's one I

699
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:23,460
think that was seems to seem to have

700
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,159
just abandoned so yeah yeah anyway yeah

701
00:28:30,049 --> 00:28:28,559
so what Dave just mentioned is what I

702
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:30,059
was going to use is my one of my most

703
00:28:33,049 --> 00:28:32,220
fascinated with right now

704
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,059
um

705
00:28:38,269 --> 00:28:36,240
the the ricott structure in Africa which

706
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:38,279
is known as the eye of Africa if you

707
00:28:41,210 --> 00:28:40,200
guys are familiar with bright Insight

708
00:28:43,010 --> 00:28:41,220
Jimmy

709
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:43,020
um I can't remember corsetti I believe

710
00:28:48,529 --> 00:28:45,000
his name he's been on Joe Rogan twice

711
00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:48,539
now he has done some amazing uh thinking

712
00:28:54,350 --> 00:28:51,480
and researching on this structure that

713
00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:54,360
has three uh concentric rings in the

714
00:28:59,330 --> 00:28:56,100
landscape that was a natural formation

715
00:29:02,810 --> 00:28:59,340
that he is now proposing is the actual

716
00:29:05,690 --> 00:29:02,820
location of Atlantis and he makes very

717
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:05,700
valid discussion or very valid points in

718
00:29:11,390 --> 00:29:08,159
his argument for saying that this is

719
00:29:14,269 --> 00:29:11,400
what Atlantis used to be that a wave

720
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:14,279
basically washed over the during this

721
00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:16,440
cataclysm that we're kind of hinting

722
00:29:22,909 --> 00:29:19,380
around as like this big game changer for

723
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,919
Humanity at that time at the oceans of

724
00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:24,960
the Atlantic swept over the land of

725
00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:26,820
Africa and then swept back into the

726
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:30,679
Atlantic Ocean there's a giant pile of

727
00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:33,600
sloth that came off of the continent in

728
00:29:38,269 --> 00:29:35,700
the water just off of the west coast of

729
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:38,279
Africa that is probably the key to the

730
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:40,440
lock as far as finding out if that is

731
00:29:45,769 --> 00:29:43,679
actually the the home of Atlantis in the

732
00:29:47,930 --> 00:29:45,779
past because if it washed it off just

733
00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:47,940
like a tsunami coming through it's going

734
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,220
to be piling piled up in the ocean just

735
00:29:55,070 --> 00:29:52,799
off of the western coast of Africa so

736
00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:55,080
that to me is the current one that I

737
00:30:01,730 --> 00:29:58,020
find most intriguing but all of Peru is

738
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:01,740
also my other Fascination it's it's a

739
00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:04,980
it's such an amazing uh feat of

740
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:08,820
engineering Ingenuity and raw willpower

741
00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:10,620
I'm assuming that what's going on in

742
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:12,600
Peru a long time ago that I don't feel

743
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:14,820
like we understand or can explain at

744
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,140
this point

745
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,000
I want to say a couple things one thing

746
00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:20,399
I've already got enough questions now

747
00:30:24,649 --> 00:30:22,140
just from off of what you said to fill

748
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:24,659
up the rest of the show for me

749
00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:26,460
um the other thing I was going to say is

750
00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:28,740
first of all everybody just give a hand

751
00:30:32,810 --> 00:30:30,600
for uh Dan and Dave because this is

752
00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:32,820
exactly what I was looking for what I

753
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:35,220
envisioned when I had this episode I was

754
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:38,100
like uh I mean you guys really just have

755
00:30:42,169 --> 00:30:39,600
knocked it out of the park and we don't

756
00:30:43,850 --> 00:30:42,179
damn near we just got started uh with

757
00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:43,860
with knowing about these structures and

758
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,200
making interesting points Dave made me

759
00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:48,720
think of that Netflix special uh the

760
00:30:53,149 --> 00:30:51,539
secrets of the Sakara tomb where what

761
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:53,159
they uncover toward the end of that

762
00:30:59,510 --> 00:30:56,520
Netflix show was not what they thought

763
00:31:01,310 --> 00:30:59,520
going in and found out a lot about it

764
00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:01,320
um I'm not going to spoil it for those

765
00:31:05,090 --> 00:31:02,700
of you who are going to watch it because

766
00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:05,100
it's it's a must it's a must for anyone

767
00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:07,260
who even has a passing interest in this

768
00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:09,419
topic you got to watch that uh Sakara

769
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:11,700
tomb thing on Netflix

770
00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:13,679
um also I want to say hello to Julie in

771
00:31:20,090 --> 00:31:16,080
the chat uh hi Jules thank you for doing

772
00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:20,100
this we have a couple uh let me see if

773
00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:22,020
there's a question Jules if we have a

774
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,520
question please highlight it we want to

775
00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:25,679
say hi to Benji Benji had a great

776
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:28,200
conversation uh about Benji and his

777
00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:30,360
experience this week it was a couple

778
00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:33,000
nights ago it was brilliant

779
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:35,340
um who else is here Scott garan my

780
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:37,740
former Air Force pair rescue well he's

781
00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:40,020
still my pair rescue brother uh he's

782
00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:42,600
just a former parent rescue men who's my

783
00:31:47,510 --> 00:31:45,000
brother up in Minnesota and man I'm

784
00:31:49,970 --> 00:31:47,520
gonna tell you Dan uh he gave us a video

785
00:31:52,250 --> 00:31:49,980
of him one you know which is like four

786
00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:52,260
feet of snow and that the Bigfoot howl

787
00:31:57,769 --> 00:31:55,080
is ever present in the background nice

788
00:32:00,130 --> 00:31:57,779
he backs up to a national forest so need

789
00:32:01,970 --> 00:32:00,140
us anymore

790
00:32:03,710 --> 00:32:01,980
anyway

791
00:32:05,149 --> 00:32:03,720
um let's let's get with it if Jules if

792
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:05,159
somebody's got a question we'll go ahead

793
00:32:10,669 --> 00:32:08,640
and uh and rock it uh and let's continue

794
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,679
with uh our friend uh Davey Johnson

795
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:12,720
thank you Davey

796
00:32:17,230 --> 00:32:15,360
hi folks so

797
00:32:22,730 --> 00:32:17,240
first of all damn

798
00:32:25,549 --> 00:32:22,740
origins of the Gods Andrew Collins and

799
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,559
Greg Little oh wow all right highly

800
00:32:29,630 --> 00:32:27,360
recommend it Andrew Collins as well with

801
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:29,640
his background in ufology and crop

802
00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:32,700
circles yeah it's a must read

803
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:34,260
so there we go

804
00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:37,500
you both describe beautifully there

805
00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:40,679
your Prime examples if you and you to

806
00:32:43,730 --> 00:32:42,059
take this to somebody who had no

807
00:32:45,649 --> 00:32:43,740
background in it and say to them this is

808
00:32:47,870 --> 00:32:45,659
why you should be studying it

809
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:47,880
and given that

810
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:50,640
so far we've only discovered one percent

811
00:32:54,409 --> 00:32:53,039
or uncovered sorry one percent of

812
00:32:56,450 --> 00:32:54,419
ancient Egypt

813
00:32:59,149 --> 00:32:56,460
given that things like Gobekli Tepe

814
00:33:01,010 --> 00:32:59,159
throw the timeline back and back

815
00:33:05,289 --> 00:33:01,020
on the love the quote the more we

816
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:08,570
what in your eyes would it take for

817
00:33:12,350 --> 00:33:10,500
mainstream Academia

818
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,360
Academia to actually start to change

819
00:33:16,130 --> 00:33:14,159
their views about this and start to

820
00:33:18,169 --> 00:33:16,140
accept some of this ancient civilization

821
00:33:20,930 --> 00:33:18,179
as mainstream we've all seen the

822
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:20,940
backlash that's come uh going Hancock's

823
00:33:25,490 --> 00:33:23,519
way what needs to change

824
00:33:27,610 --> 00:33:25,500
who wants to take their first Davey or

825
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:27,620
Dave or Dan

826
00:33:33,049 --> 00:33:30,960
yeah get done first yeah yeah I'll I'll

827
00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:33,059
take the heat off of Dave and try to

828
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,500
tackle this one first

829
00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:36,960
um I I think that there would need to be

830
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:37,500
um

831
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:42,000
the the layers of sediment is what the

832
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:44,700
establishment likes to see if we start

833
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:46,860
to dig down to layers that we haven't

834
00:33:52,090 --> 00:33:49,440
dug down to before and we find a

835
00:33:55,970 --> 00:33:52,100
structure we find

836
00:33:57,409 --> 00:33:55,980
evidence of advanced civilizations where

837
00:33:59,570 --> 00:33:57,419
we haven't looked before that's what

838
00:34:02,750 --> 00:33:59,580
it's going to take so one of the

839
00:34:06,590 --> 00:34:02,760
problems that Graham Hancock explained

840
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,600
in his book America before is when these

841
00:34:11,389 --> 00:34:08,879
universities go out and they're

842
00:34:15,169 --> 00:34:11,399
researching an area they're digging down

843
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:15,179
to 5000 years from the present and then

844
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:16,560
they stop when they find what it is

845
00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:18,300
they're looking for or they say well

846
00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:20,580
it's not here so what I think is going

847
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:22,260
to have to happen is these these same

848
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:23,760
places and just like I was describing

849
00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:27,179
before the chances of one civilization

850
00:34:32,089 --> 00:34:29,460
building on top of another civilization

851
00:34:34,010 --> 00:34:32,099
is very high like is your house that you

852
00:34:36,169 --> 00:34:34,020
live in right now the first house that

853
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,179
has ever been on Earth in that location

854
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:38,159
it's probably not there was probably

855
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,460
something there before a farm uh or if

856
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,960
you guys from Over the pond there's

857
00:34:46,070 --> 00:34:44,399
probably other houses and other

858
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:46,080
apartments and things like that from

859
00:34:49,970 --> 00:34:48,179
back then so what I think is going to

860
00:34:52,369 --> 00:34:49,980
have to happen is they're just like the

861
00:34:54,349 --> 00:34:52,379
UFO Community needs to open the aperture

862
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,359
on the information that we're taking in

863
00:34:58,010 --> 00:34:56,879
and how we're viewing this topic same

864
00:35:00,770 --> 00:34:58,020
thing needs to happen for the

865
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,780
architectural or archaeological World

866
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,359
they need to open up their aperture and

867
00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:05,520
say hey instead of just digging down

868
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:09,660
5000 years and stopping let's move that

869
00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:11,520
evidence out of the way and dig another

870
00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:13,740
few feet deeper and see if we can

871
00:35:18,290 --> 00:35:15,300
continue to find something else of

872
00:35:20,089 --> 00:35:18,300
significance at those deeper depths

873
00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:20,099
that's going to be the nail on the

874
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:22,200
coffin when they find a structure like

875
00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:25,020
uh up when they find a pyramid under the

876
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,660
under underground at levels that they

877
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,520
shouldn't see it they don't have to

878
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,440
carbon date it at that point the layers

879
00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:33,359
of geography are going to be all they

880
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:36,180
need to verify to put a stamp on that

881
00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:37,920
time for when that happens so that's

882
00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:39,060
what I think is going to have to happen

883
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,260
in the future they're going to have to

884
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:42,720
find something at a certain depth that

885
00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:45,240
forces them to accept a different

886
00:35:48,349 --> 00:35:47,160
timeline than what they currently have

887
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,359
established

888
00:35:52,430 --> 00:35:50,640
Dan just to tack on real quick is there

889
00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:52,440
a place that you have in your mind you

890
00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:55,380
would start digging before Mesopotamia I

891
00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:57,000
mean you got to go to the the Middle

892
00:36:00,170 --> 00:35:58,500
East like that's and that's one of the

893
00:36:03,050 --> 00:36:00,180
unfortunate parts of the world that we

894
00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:03,060
live in right now is the the best stuff

895
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:06,060
the most amazing undiscovered

896
00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:08,040
things on our planet are in the most

897
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,380
dangerous locations

898
00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:12,960
um there and then also the Sahara itself

899
00:36:18,290 --> 00:36:16,200
the Sahara was was not a desert five

900
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,300
thousand six thousand years ago

901
00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:21,119
Earth isn't a stable environment we're

902
00:36:24,589 --> 00:36:22,920
very lucky in the society that we live

903
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:24,599
in right now that we have experienced

904
00:36:31,849 --> 00:36:28,160
this long duration of time without

905
00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:31,859
extreme swings in our in our climate we

906
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:34,140
talk about climate change right now we

907
00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:35,520
don't know anything about what climate

908
00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:37,079
change actually is compared to what our

909
00:36:40,609 --> 00:36:38,820
forefathers and our ancestors had to

910
00:36:44,089 --> 00:36:40,619
experience and live through and endure

911
00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:44,099
through so we're lucky we're fortunate

912
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,020
um the Sahara has Secrets under the

913
00:36:50,510 --> 00:36:48,240
Sands that have been preserved

914
00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:50,520
that we don't know about that we haven't

915
00:36:55,370 --> 00:36:52,920
even that has been lost

916
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:55,380
we we need to find it again so hopefully

917
00:36:59,329 --> 00:36:57,660
if all right so we'll get lidar for the

918
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:59,339
Amazon we'll get lidar for the

919
00:37:02,569 --> 00:37:00,720
underwater areas and then we got to get

920
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,579
lidar they can scan through sand I guess

921
00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:04,320
so they don't start to really

922
00:37:09,890 --> 00:37:07,380
make some gains ground penetrating radar

923
00:37:12,349 --> 00:37:09,900
and Moss and I'll tell you during some

924
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:12,359
of those quiet nights during my first

925
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:15,359
and second fsoc deployments was Iraq

926
00:37:20,810 --> 00:37:18,240
they were both Iraq and uh or Iraq if

927
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:20,820
I'm gonna say correctly and some of

928
00:37:23,810 --> 00:37:22,260
those quite nice people would say man

929
00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:23,820
can you believe we're flying over the

930
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,820
cradle of civilization right here and um

931
00:37:31,730 --> 00:37:29,280
this is like Mesopotamia and and it just

932
00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:31,740
you know it of course you know back then

933
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:33,900
I had no focus on something like that

934
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,440
but but it's uh fascinating and I'm glad

935
00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:39,599
that you had a place in mind and if if

936
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:41,400
day uh Dave if you forgot the question

937
00:37:48,170 --> 00:37:44,400
Davey please I'm clear with a question

938
00:37:50,089 --> 00:37:48,180
that's fine the the uh yeah I mean I

939
00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:50,099
think that I think Dan's right there I

940
00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:52,380
think now if you remember globekichepi

941
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:54,420
which really changed the clock because

942
00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:55,740
that was eleven and a half thousand

943
00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:57,180
years ago something like that I think

944
00:38:01,010 --> 00:37:58,920
anyway what happened it was that sort of

945
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,020
time frame and it was clearly built by

946
00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:03,839
an organized group of people to do it

947
00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:05,700
now the only reason the money so very

948
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:07,800
find that date was the German archeology

949
00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:11,040
I think Smith was his name he found soil

950
00:38:14,569 --> 00:38:12,660
but could not have got there any other

951
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:14,579
way so they had to wear the day I don't

952
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:15,720
think they would have done it otherwise

953
00:38:20,329 --> 00:38:18,180
because they hate the very very set in

954
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:20,339
the ways in archeology at the archeology

955
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,839
so they might be that but the question

956
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:24,000
is what's the sort of archaeological

957
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:25,440
equivalent of the youth on the White

958
00:38:29,630 --> 00:38:27,839
House lawn really isn't it that's what

959
00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:29,640
they'd ask you and I agree with them

960
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:31,500
again it'd have to be some big pyramid

961
00:38:36,349 --> 00:38:34,320
or some big structure but they are a

962
00:38:38,030 --> 00:38:36,359
problematic Bunch the archaeologists I

963
00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:38,040
mean they've got the roots in the 18th

964
00:38:42,290 --> 00:38:39,720
to 19th century

965
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:42,300
it's a Perry but he's very Colonial and

966
00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:43,680
a lot of the beliefs around population

967
00:38:47,390 --> 00:38:45,540
movements are around that particularly

968
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:47,400
in the Indian subcontinent they've got

969
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:51,000
some very strange ideas about that and

970
00:38:54,530 --> 00:38:52,920
that really I think the archaeological

971
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,540
discipline is more like an art history

972
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,640
movement or a history movement but it is

973
00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:58,560
a science somebody to be able I guess

974
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,540
and it really needs to be a more

975
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:01,920
scientific discipline because they don't

976
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,300
know what they're looking at after time

977
00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:06,000
so it needs more linguists Engineers

978
00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:08,579
astronomers geologists scientists

979
00:39:13,010 --> 00:39:10,859
genealogists it needs a proper

980
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:13,020
multi-disciplinary team because we're

981
00:39:16,910 --> 00:39:14,400
looking at some of these ancient

982
00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:16,920
structures but and they don't understand

983
00:39:20,810 --> 00:39:18,660
but they couldn't have been built using

984
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,820
you know a bronze pickaxe and whatever I

985
00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:22,320
don't know you know a bit of sand and a

986
00:39:26,270 --> 00:39:23,820
brick or something they don't understand

987
00:39:27,290 --> 00:39:26,280
that it wouldn't do that and so they

988
00:39:29,930 --> 00:39:27,300
don't know what they're looking at

989
00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:29,940
really and so they tend to miss stuff

990
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:32,339
I'll ignore it because it don't fit into

991
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:33,839
their Paradigm and the other thing is

992
00:39:37,490 --> 00:39:35,820
you can't date stone so what a lot of

993
00:39:39,770 --> 00:39:37,500
people don't realize about these datings

994
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:39,780
we're here is they very much contextual

995
00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:42,720
on what people believe is the day and is

996
00:39:46,849 --> 00:39:44,460
the historical contacts within that

997
00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:46,859
Monument is so that's why you get these

998
00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:49,380
varying dates and it's very very hard to

999
00:39:53,089 --> 00:39:51,660
contradict it so I think a lot of the

1000
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,099
stuff in South America for instance

1001
00:39:57,530 --> 00:39:55,680
you're a lot older or he's dated

1002
00:39:59,329 --> 00:39:57,540
according to that sort of that sort of

1003
00:40:01,609 --> 00:39:59,339
Paradigm really when you've got the

1004
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:01,619
example of Clovis first where he

1005
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:03,060
wouldn't have anybody went into America

1006
00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:06,720
below 13 000 years ago or 13 000 BC our

1007
00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:08,220
30 000 years ago it was something like

1008
00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:10,320
that and anybody who come up with that

1009
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,300
who dug deeper who found anything out

1010
00:40:16,670 --> 00:40:14,160
there destroyed the careers it carried

1011
00:40:18,890 --> 00:40:16,680
on for 90 years until they all died off

1012
00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:18,900
I mean Max what did Max Planck say

1013
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:21,000
science advances one funeral at a time

1014
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:23,880
and I'll probably be like archeology as

1015
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:27,119
well really so so anyway there was cases

1016
00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:29,040
of people were told not to dig below

1017
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,380
certain layers like Dan was saying and

1018
00:40:34,609 --> 00:40:33,119
they'd lose their careers on the back of

1019
00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:34,619
it so you've got things like already

1020
00:40:38,930 --> 00:40:36,900
well Becky Tippy that should have told

1021
00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:38,940
them something was going the Sphinx and

1022
00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:40,920
the weather in some of the age of the

1023
00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:44,040
Cities the lidar you know and some of

1024
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,540
the genealogy shows because they

1025
00:40:50,089 --> 00:40:47,280
believed there was no population

1026
00:40:52,190 --> 00:40:50,099
movement below before Seafair each night

1027
00:40:53,870 --> 00:40:52,200
a lot later on yeah we've got clear

1028
00:40:56,569 --> 00:40:53,880
evidence through genealogy and other

1029
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,579
things shared by iconography pyramids

1030
00:41:01,490 --> 00:40:58,640
all over the world but clearly there was

1031
00:41:03,950 --> 00:41:01,500
evidence of an earlier civilization a

1032
00:41:05,810 --> 00:41:03,960
moment but he just won't have it so I

1033
00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:05,820
think it'll be prayer to convince the

1034
00:41:09,770 --> 00:41:07,500
archaeologists of anything as they

1035
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:09,780
currently constitute because the dog in

1036
00:41:14,569 --> 00:41:12,480
a big bunker of their own making and

1037
00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:14,579
things just keep getting older and they

1038
00:41:18,589 --> 00:41:16,440
keep getting tired they form the wagons

1039
00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:18,599
ever tighter every time there's an older

1040
00:41:23,329 --> 00:41:20,760
phone so I'm a bit more pessimistic but

1041
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:23,339
I think Dan's right here it'd have to be

1042
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,220
something pretty big or something that

1043
00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:28,800
they couldn't ignore oh and honest there

1044
00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:30,780
are sorry an archaeologist who isn't

1045
00:41:35,569 --> 00:41:33,180
very dogmatic who like Smith the club

1046
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,579
who gets his results that body can stop

1047
00:41:39,890 --> 00:41:37,200
him

1048
00:41:41,690 --> 00:41:39,900
good stuff gentlemen good stuff uh now

1049
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:41,700
that we tackled that one we gotta get

1050
00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:43,380
jewels of the wood in here with her

1051
00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:45,780
question our uh chat moderator

1052
00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:49,260
extraordinaire the jewel of Alabama

1053
00:41:53,690 --> 00:41:51,420
um there she is uh do you think that the

1054
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:53,700
worldwide similarities in megalithic

1055
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:55,560
structures indicate a worldwide

1056
00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:58,380
civilization that had the ability to

1057
00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:02,880
travel through portals or with Vimana

1058
00:42:07,250 --> 00:42:05,220
I can tell you that I don't I don't know

1059
00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:07,260
about the portals of Ramana

1060
00:42:14,450 --> 00:42:10,920
um being a part of it but when I see the

1061
00:42:18,109 --> 00:42:14,460
uh the carvings of people that are half

1062
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,119
fish half human or they're full humans

1063
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:21,119
but they have like fish attire

1064
00:42:24,609 --> 00:42:23,400
to me that sounds like there was a

1065
00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:24,619
global

1066
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,660
seafaring uh civilization that lived on

1067
00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:29,280
the planet at the same time as these

1068
00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:31,500
other people and other civilizations did

1069
00:42:36,349 --> 00:42:33,480
that they didn't quite understand like

1070
00:42:37,790 --> 00:42:36,359
they would visit them and they would if

1071
00:42:39,770 --> 00:42:37,800
you see them they usually have what

1072
00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:39,780
looks like a pine cone in their hand and

1073
00:42:44,990 --> 00:42:42,300
in one hand and a handbag in the other

1074
00:42:47,630 --> 00:42:45,000
and it seems like the it's the transfer

1075
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,640
of knowledge is what these people are

1076
00:42:52,849 --> 00:42:49,680
bringing to the other civilizations so

1077
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,859
these uh seafaring people that they just

1078
00:42:56,450 --> 00:42:54,960
kind of said like they must be fish they

1079
00:42:58,130 --> 00:42:56,460
live in the oceans they come from the

1080
00:42:59,870 --> 00:42:58,140
oceans so therefore they're fish that

1081
00:43:03,770 --> 00:42:59,880
makes sense to me

1082
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,780
um that to me is an indicator that there

1083
00:43:09,050 --> 00:43:06,240
was maybe not a worldwide civilization

1084
00:43:11,569 --> 00:43:09,060
that had control over the planet but

1085
00:43:13,730 --> 00:43:11,579
that there was a worldwide influence on

1086
00:43:15,950 --> 00:43:13,740
the thought process and the transfer of

1087
00:43:17,930 --> 00:43:15,960
knowledge across the planet to where

1088
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,940
they could plant the seed in different

1089
00:43:21,470 --> 00:43:19,920
locations and say let me show you how to

1090
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:21,480
solve this one problem

1091
00:43:25,010 --> 00:43:23,520
and then you take it and you run with it

1092
00:43:27,710 --> 00:43:25,020
if if I gave

1093
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,720
if I gave you guys all a box of eight

1094
00:43:32,089 --> 00:43:30,240
crayons and said draw me a picture of

1095
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:32,099
your out of the outside of your house

1096
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:33,240
you're all going to draw different

1097
00:43:37,730 --> 00:43:34,800
things

1098
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:37,740
um just like if I if someone gave me uh

1099
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:39,660
different tools I'm gonna be able to do

1100
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,040
different things with them so I think

1101
00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:43,440
that's what happened is there was a

1102
00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:46,140
advanced civilization that made it

1103
00:43:50,930 --> 00:43:48,660
through the catastrophe that we've

1104
00:43:53,089 --> 00:43:50,940
touched we've danced around a little bit

1105
00:43:54,730 --> 00:43:53,099
in this conversation that was able to

1106
00:43:57,470 --> 00:43:54,740
disseminate information

1107
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,480
globally and then they they wanted to

1108
00:44:02,510 --> 00:43:59,520
keep themselves they didn't just like

1109
00:44:04,370 --> 00:44:02,520
today in this modern society that we

1110
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,380
live in we're all on the internet

1111
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:06,839
talking to each other from multiple

1112
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:09,060
continents they're still untouched

1113
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:10,079
tribes

1114
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,660
in the world that we live in right now

1115
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:14,880
if we go out and we give them a little

1116
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,500
bit of information on how to sanitize

1117
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,720
water it's going to change their world

1118
00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:20,640
so it's just it's not that you have to

1119
00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:22,380
go in and you have to hold their hand

1120
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:24,599
and you have to teach them how to use

1121
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,040
all this stuff you just give them a

1122
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,079
little bit of information to give them a

1123
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,200
kick start and that's what I think the

1124
00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:33,839
the history records indicate with the

1125
00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:35,400
carvings that I've seen

1126
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:37,319
um that that are talked about very

1127
00:44:43,309 --> 00:44:40,380
frequently in this weird world

1128
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:43,319
awesome thank you let me pass that to

1129
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,300
Dave and then we'll get back to uh Deb's

1130
00:44:48,770 --> 00:44:47,520
with her question yeah I mean there are

1131
00:44:50,210 --> 00:44:48,780
a lot of counts of Vermont in

1132
00:44:52,210 --> 00:44:50,220
particularly happen in India and other

1133
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,220
types of line craft in the literature

1134
00:44:56,510 --> 00:44:54,720
Tales of craft line in fact that's been

1135
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,520
a lot of confusion with Ancient Aliens

1136
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:58,560
because people have ascribed that to

1137
00:45:01,790 --> 00:45:00,240
aliens but actually could would just

1138
00:45:04,609 --> 00:45:01,800
have been a more advanced civilization

1139
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,619
there's one apartment King Solomon at an

1140
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,480
old craft apparently he must have got it

1141
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,160
from an old second-hand shop somewhere

1142
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:10,319
in the markets in the Middle East but

1143
00:45:13,849 --> 00:45:11,760
anyway he hadn't all I'm joking

1144
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:13,859
obviously he had an old crafter barley

1145
00:45:17,569 --> 00:45:15,780
and he used to fly around as the one was

1146
00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:17,579
called Solomon's mountains and fly under

1147
00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:19,260
some of the descriptions funnily enough

1148
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,200
from what he sees from the air a pretty

1149
00:45:25,970 --> 00:45:24,240
accurate apparently but the very amount

1150
00:45:28,730 --> 00:45:25,980
of things well documented in ancient

1151
00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:28,740
Sanskrit literature about the abilities

1152
00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:31,260
they had some of the ways they could fly

1153
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:34,380
and it's it's really easy so

1154
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:37,140
if they did indeed Master field tech and

1155
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:38,880
we need another program to go in to go

1156
00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:41,040
into the is that right or not but let's

1157
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:42,660
just assume that there's some evidence

1158
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:45,359
of it then you could see how they could

1159
00:45:50,210 --> 00:45:47,940
do that and get into anti-gravidics or

1160
00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:50,220
using something Sonic or electromagnetic

1161
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:52,680
using magnetic fields so I think there

1162
00:45:56,569 --> 00:45:54,540
was some sort of ability to fly there

1163
00:45:59,329 --> 00:45:56,579
just from the ancient Tales and The like

1164
00:46:01,309 --> 00:45:59,339
dances the stories and carvings now with

1165
00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:01,319
dimensional portals only on a lot of

1166
00:46:06,349 --> 00:46:02,940
monuments all around the world you see

1167
00:46:08,809 --> 00:46:06,359
these doors very well carved very

1168
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,819
accurate doors they look you know they

1169
00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:10,560
don't look like some and they're all

1170
00:46:14,210 --> 00:46:12,540
over the place and a lot of the tales

1171
00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:14,220
from the indigenous peoples there or

1172
00:46:18,170 --> 00:46:16,260
whatever aren't about people traveling

1173
00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:18,180
through different things now it does

1174
00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:20,220
sound a bit ridiculous to the modern ear

1175
00:46:24,109 --> 00:46:22,619
but maybe not to what our modern is

1176
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,119
because you know we're used to these

1177
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:26,880
things in other contexts but if again if

1178
00:46:31,970 --> 00:46:29,160
you've mastered some dimensional stuff

1179
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:31,980
quantum physics things like that there

1180
00:46:36,589 --> 00:46:34,020
may well be something to that and while

1181
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:36,599
we are lockdown not with us but people

1182
00:46:40,730 --> 00:46:39,000
laugh down the sleeves of it I've often

1183
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:40,740
thought why did they do those doors and

1184
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:42,060
there are a lot of tales of people

1185
00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:43,440
traveling through these doors

1186
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,480
particularly in South America to other

1187
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:48,240
parts of other complexes as well so

1188
00:46:51,410 --> 00:46:49,920
there may well be something to it

1189
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:51,420
because if they have cracked to

1190
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,720
different science as we say that then uh

1191
00:46:59,390 --> 00:46:57,119
it may be quite sure I'll give you an

1192
00:47:01,490 --> 00:46:59,400
example for instance you might have the

1193
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:01,500
Obelisk for instance one of the theories

1194
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:04,440
is that the pyramids generated uh Power

1195
00:47:08,329 --> 00:47:06,240
electrical power and the obelisks were

1196
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:08,339
like some sort of Tesla Tower but

1197
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,380
collected that power and within a radius

1198
00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:12,240
you could give out a thing about like

1199
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,520
Wi-Fi and everybody could use the power

1200
00:47:18,589 --> 00:47:17,040
tools in that radius so so there could

1201
00:47:20,809 --> 00:47:18,599
be you know so you'd never think of that

1202
00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:20,819
would you it may well be the headdress

1203
00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:22,560
of the ancient Egyptians he'd taken from

1204
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:25,020
an earlier civilization that soundic

1205
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,420
amplification the man bags I've often

1206
00:47:31,490 --> 00:47:29,040
thought they could be a portable power

1207
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,500
source so I mean I'm not saying that's

1208
00:47:35,690 --> 00:47:33,359
correct but what I'm getting at is a lot

1209
00:47:37,790 --> 00:47:35,700
of these things that sound again crazy

1210
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:37,800
once you think of a different type of

1211
00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:39,599
tech called well be

1212
00:47:43,490 --> 00:47:41,640
could well be you know if oh yeah right

1213
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:43,500
I can say that now so I'm not saying

1214
00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:45,420
it's correct and as I say we'd have to

1215
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:47,220
have quite a detailed discussion to get

1216
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,980
to prove you know where that may come

1217
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,319
from and it probably took ages and a big

1218
00:47:57,950 --> 00:47:55,200
series but but I think there's something

1219
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:57,960
that was a very interesting question

1220
00:48:01,609 --> 00:47:59,700
I'm gonna tell you what that was a good

1221
00:48:03,470 --> 00:48:01,619
one and uh I forgot I was about to pass

1222
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:03,480
it to Deb but I got a question I got to

1223
00:48:09,950 --> 00:48:06,900
get in here uh first and then and then

1224
00:48:11,870 --> 00:48:09,960
we'll get to The Debs and I was going to

1225
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,880
ask another question which I'm going to

1226
00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:13,440
say for my next one but I gotta throw

1227
00:48:19,550 --> 00:48:16,140
some meat to the UFO base if you will to

1228
00:48:22,010 --> 00:48:19,560
use a political uh throw here

1229
00:48:25,069 --> 00:48:22,020
um is there an intersection Dan do you

1230
00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:25,079
believe between other intelligences that

1231
00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:27,660
or what we would call UFOs but we could

1232
00:48:32,270 --> 00:48:29,880
just call it a non-human intelligence

1233
00:48:34,670 --> 00:48:32,280
and these ancient structures is there an

1234
00:48:36,349 --> 00:48:34,680
intersection or is there that and I know

1235
00:48:37,849 --> 00:48:36,359
this is hotly debated is this something

1236
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:37,859
that you don't see

1237
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:42,480
uh juicy so this is this is the my pet

1238
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:45,420
hypothesis that I I like to mess around

1239
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,800
with every now and then of course

1240
00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:49,680
everyone when they look at the UFO the

1241
00:48:52,250 --> 00:48:50,460
first

1242
00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:52,260
responses that must come from another

1243
00:48:55,970 --> 00:48:53,400
planet

1244
00:49:00,349 --> 00:48:55,980
the crypto terrestrial hypothesis in my

1245
00:49:03,230 --> 00:49:00,359
opinion has so much it simplifies the

1246
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,240
discussion so much that it shouldn't be

1247
00:49:08,089 --> 00:49:05,520
ignored and the crypto terrestrial

1248
00:49:11,450 --> 00:49:08,099
hypothesis is basically that there is a

1249
00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:11,460
earth-based species that's far far more

1250
00:49:16,250 --> 00:49:14,700
advanced in certain ways than than we

1251
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:16,260
are they don't have a global

1252
00:49:20,809 --> 00:49:18,660
infrastructure but they would they have

1253
00:49:22,609 --> 00:49:20,819
different abilities I don't know like

1254
00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:22,619
maybe how to move giant stones that we

1255
00:49:28,370 --> 00:49:25,020
can't move that

1256
00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:28,380
they utilize in ways that we don't and

1257
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:31,740
they've lived alongside of us and one

1258
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:34,560
thing that I I think about is for our

1259
00:49:40,550 --> 00:49:37,859
modern Humanity we tend to go we we tend

1260
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:40,560
to spread that is our goal we want to

1261
00:49:46,490 --> 00:49:43,740
grow in numbers we spread we're not very

1262
00:49:48,890 --> 00:49:46,500
sustainable if there was a the more

1263
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,900
advanced we get though the more we get

1264
00:49:54,770 --> 00:49:50,960
concerned about sustainability

1265
00:49:57,470 --> 00:49:54,780
but we're not real quick about figuring

1266
00:49:59,150 --> 00:49:57,480
that out another society that is more

1267
00:50:00,890 --> 00:49:59,160
advanced than us might have gotten to

1268
00:50:04,490 --> 00:50:00,900
the point where they did realize that

1269
00:50:07,309 --> 00:50:04,500
sustainability of a smaller base of

1270
00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:07,319
we'll call them people is easier than

1271
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:08,940
trying to do it for a huge number of

1272
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:11,819
people so potentially there's a

1273
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,359
civilization that is much less that has

1274
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:18,000
less much less people than we do shares

1275
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:19,920
the planet with us in a sustainable way

1276
00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:22,079
that makes it difficult for us to detect

1277
00:50:27,170 --> 00:50:24,900
so that's where I start to wonder is are

1278
00:50:29,329 --> 00:50:27,180
those civilizations potentially

1279
00:50:32,569 --> 00:50:29,339
responsible for the technology that was

1280
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:32,579
transferred to the civilizations that

1281
00:50:35,450 --> 00:50:34,079
were able to build these megalithic

1282
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:35,460
structures that we see all over the

1283
00:50:40,250 --> 00:50:38,220
world and they just don't want to really

1284
00:50:43,790 --> 00:50:40,260
like the fish the guys dress up as fish

1285
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:43,800
did they come communicate educate and

1286
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,839
then leave and that was it that was that

1287
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:47,520
was all they wanted to do they just

1288
00:50:51,950 --> 00:50:49,680
wanted to reach out and say hey and

1289
00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:51,960
enjoy this information and let's see

1290
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:53,640
what happens so maybe that's the

1291
00:50:57,770 --> 00:50:56,400
connection between UFOs maybe they have

1292
00:51:00,410 --> 00:50:57,780
technology

1293
00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:00,420
that we consider so far in advance of

1294
00:51:04,730 --> 00:51:02,940
ours that it can't be from here and the

1295
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,740
perfect way for them to disguise their

1296
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:07,440
existence on this planet is for them to

1297
00:51:12,109 --> 00:51:09,660
convince us that they're from Outer

1298
00:51:13,549 --> 00:51:12,119
Space if we're busy looking up and

1299
00:51:15,170 --> 00:51:13,559
assuming that everything's coming from

1300
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:15,180
outer space there's we're not going to

1301
00:51:17,870 --> 00:51:16,559
be looking we're going to assume that

1302
00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:17,880
they don't live here on the planet with

1303
00:51:23,450 --> 00:51:20,940
us let's talk about Bigfoot we think

1304
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,460
that Bigfoot lives on this planet but

1305
00:51:27,470 --> 00:51:25,440
they're so good at hiding and avoiding

1306
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:27,480
us that there's no chance or that we we

1307
00:51:33,770 --> 00:51:29,700
haven't been able to prove it if that's

1308
00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:33,780
a large bipedal primate imagine what a

1309
00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:36,900
more advanced intelligence Hume version

1310
00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:39,480
of a human would be able to do to keep

1311
00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:41,940
themselves hidden from us to use to be

1312
00:51:47,089 --> 00:51:44,280
evasive in nature and and we wouldn't be

1313
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:47,099
able to detect them until our technology

1314
00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:48,839
advanced to the point where we can I

1315
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:50,520
don't know update our Radars and start

1316
00:51:56,809 --> 00:51:53,040
detecting things that are in our skies

1317
00:51:58,430 --> 00:51:56,819
that they use to monitor us possibly so

1318
00:52:00,650 --> 00:51:58,440
that's that's where I think

1319
00:52:02,750 --> 00:52:00,660
um and and once again it boils down to

1320
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:02,760
maybe they were more dominant on the

1321
00:52:07,970 --> 00:52:05,040
planet prior to a catastrophe that

1322
00:52:10,609 --> 00:52:07,980
happened 11 600 years ago

1323
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:10,619
and then they got reset just like we got

1324
00:52:15,890 --> 00:52:13,200
reset and then we've kind of risen pair

1325
00:52:18,349 --> 00:52:15,900
in a parallel manner to to the point

1326
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,359
where we are today and they just haven't

1327
00:52:23,470 --> 00:52:21,119
advanced in the same way that we have so

1328
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:23,480
a little bit of rambling there I I I

1329
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:25,920
admit that but yeah that's where I think

1330
00:52:30,290 --> 00:52:28,380
the UFO and the ancient um

1331
00:52:33,410 --> 00:52:30,300
ancient history kind of blend together

1332
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,420
and who are our gods that are the

1333
00:52:37,370 --> 00:52:35,040
Egyptians talked about who are those

1334
00:52:39,290 --> 00:52:37,380
guys where did they come from is that a

1335
00:52:41,630 --> 00:52:39,300
representation of someone that came and

1336
00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:41,640
taught to them is that a blend of

1337
00:52:46,430 --> 00:52:43,800
civilizations

1338
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,440
that's a you it's funny you put you

1339
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:48,000
posed a great question in your answer

1340
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:49,920
right there at the end that's great and

1341
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:51,300
by the way some people would argue that

1342
00:52:56,349 --> 00:52:54,119
Bigfoot is an offshoot of humans and is

1343
00:52:58,490 --> 00:52:56,359
so intelligent in its environment

1344
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:58,500
obviously it's not going to perform and

1345
00:53:01,309 --> 00:52:59,760
we discussed this a little last night

1346
00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:01,319
it's not going to perform microsurgery

1347
00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:04,440
but in their the way that they dominate

1348
00:53:10,010 --> 00:53:06,359
in the forest you listen to a guy like

1349
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:10,020
Les Stroud survivor man and he goes I am

1350
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,240
nowhere near

1351
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:14,640
um The Woodsman that bigfoots are like

1352
00:53:18,829 --> 00:53:16,260
the way that they're able to operate in

1353
00:53:20,930 --> 00:53:18,839
their environment I'm just you know as a

1354
00:53:22,609 --> 00:53:20,940
human I'm I'm great for a human but

1355
00:53:25,849 --> 00:53:22,619
nothing compared to them if I'm

1356
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:25,859
paraphrasing what he said so anyway Dave

1357
00:53:29,569 --> 00:53:27,839
uh would you like to tackle that one sir

1358
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,579
yeah I mean Don's answer they very

1359
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:31,440
eloquently on crypto terrestrials she's

1360
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:33,599
a big interest of mine so I won't go

1361
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,480
over what he said but what is one thing

1362
00:53:41,870 --> 00:53:37,920
to begin plates I was accountable

1363
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,880
Atlantis uh the Great temple three sets

1364
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,440
a soul on it was pretty I think he was

1365
00:53:47,569 --> 00:53:45,839
his ground great grandfather said to him

1366
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:47,579
but this is happen many times and each

1367
00:53:51,710 --> 00:53:49,500
time humanity must been again again like

1368
00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:51,720
children so you could see the mileage in

1369
00:53:56,210 --> 00:53:54,180
offshore of human civilization some time

1370
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,220
ago decided to stay on the ground

1371
00:53:59,870 --> 00:53:58,319
because it's too tricky so you could do

1372
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:59,880
that but they might have been around for

1373
00:54:03,950 --> 00:54:01,200
a long time they might have been around

1374
00:54:05,870 --> 00:54:03,960
for a long time there's also other stuff

1375
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:05,880
around the stories of elves and stuff at

1376
00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:08,640
Jack ballet mentions fairies and all

1377
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:10,740
those other connections so I think it's

1378
00:54:14,510 --> 00:54:12,480
quite a strong case really team and

1379
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:14,520
fully enough those three categories I

1380
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:16,800
did an article about this last year and

1381
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:19,140
those three categories of science I did

1382
00:54:24,829 --> 00:54:21,660
came from I think it was it feel

1383
00:54:26,809 --> 00:54:24,839
manipulation uh you know earth power and

1384
00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:26,819
scitec effectively what I'll come out of

1385
00:54:31,730 --> 00:54:28,500
at the end of my look at ancient Tech

1386
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,740
fingerprints I used also linked to all

1387
00:54:35,089 --> 00:54:33,119
the things we see now with the

1388
00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:35,099
phenomenon if you see what I mean so you

1389
00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:37,020
could you could say there's quite a link

1390
00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:38,819
there the other thing of course is

1391
00:54:43,309 --> 00:54:41,579
shamanic stuff and people having the

1392
00:54:45,650 --> 00:54:43,319
tales of people talking to being some

1393
00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:45,660
other sanctions and gods and season it

1394
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,940
could be that side of the phenomenon but

1395
00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:50,400
people have been talking to as well so

1396
00:54:55,849 --> 00:54:52,800
so the only missing factories maybe the

1397
00:54:58,190 --> 00:54:55,859
18 Factor but again there are Tales of

1398
00:55:00,290 --> 00:54:58,200
people the sky people people visiting

1399
00:55:02,690 --> 00:55:00,300
again in which they may well have had

1400
00:55:05,569 --> 00:55:02,700
that same relationship we do so yeah I

1401
00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:05,579
think it's all on the table really but I

1402
00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:07,020
can definitely see a connection to the

1403
00:55:11,630 --> 00:55:09,240
tech we saw in the ancient time and the

1404
00:55:13,309 --> 00:55:11,640
technically now the lesson for me is

1405
00:55:15,170 --> 00:55:13,319
thought maybe as was in the first

1406
00:55:17,809 --> 00:55:15,180
question that's a path we may well be

1407
00:55:19,609 --> 00:55:17,819
able to go down but we're missing a step

1408
00:55:21,710 --> 00:55:19,619
we've made a wrong turn in our

1409
00:55:23,870 --> 00:55:21,720
scientific approach so we're not and it

1410
00:55:25,549 --> 00:55:23,880
may be a attack but a lot of people use

1411
00:55:27,950 --> 00:55:25,559
you know but if we could harness anyway

1412
00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:27,960
yeah so I think Dan sort of got it

1413
00:55:32,030 --> 00:55:30,180
really I've just added a little bit

1414
00:55:34,970 --> 00:55:32,040
but what's what's interesting though

1415
00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:34,980
Dave is that they have chosen to

1416
00:55:37,609 --> 00:55:36,780
interact with them and not interact with

1417
00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:37,619
us

1418
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,180
throwing that out there

1419
00:55:56,329 --> 00:55:53,520
well well do you mean like the crypto

1420
00:55:58,609 --> 00:55:56,339
crypto is what do they say yeah if they

1421
00:56:00,770 --> 00:55:58,619
help them but they're clearly not trying

1422
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,780
to lead us well well I mean the problem

1423
00:56:05,450 --> 00:56:02,640
is I suppose we're in danger of blowing

1424
00:56:07,250 --> 00:56:05,460
up the same place or polluting and

1425
00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:07,260
killing them all right and they might be

1426
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:09,000
just trying and if there is a regular

1427
00:56:13,730 --> 00:56:12,000
cataclysm cycle they might just want to

1428
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:13,740
make sure we don't take them with us

1429
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:15,720
when we go so they might just want to be

1430
00:56:20,690 --> 00:56:17,640
easing as gently into that good night as

1431
00:56:23,450 --> 00:56:20,700
it were to Quality so that might be what

1432
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:23,460
it's all about and or it could be and

1433
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,960
the third part of my article was about

1434
00:56:29,329 --> 00:56:26,640
this funnily enough but it could be

1435
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,339
apart from that dystopian view but they

1436
00:56:32,329 --> 00:56:30,960
try to tell us and help us and that's

1437
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,339
what we're seeing at the moment the

1438
00:56:37,370 --> 00:56:35,040
activity in the uip world I mean that is

1439
00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:37,380
massive speculation which I like all of

1440
00:56:41,450 --> 00:56:39,300
this but that company other connection

1441
00:56:43,010 --> 00:56:41,460
maybe they've got to tell us and it may

1442
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:43,020
even if they didn't want to tell us

1443
00:56:46,190 --> 00:56:44,160
normal and it's not their normal

1444
00:56:48,650 --> 00:56:46,200
practice you just like to see us all die

1445
00:56:52,010 --> 00:56:48,660
and then help us out again but in this

1446
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:52,020
case with that advanced but we but we've

1447
00:56:55,069 --> 00:56:53,520
had they can't let us go like that

1448
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:55,079
because we might take them with them so

1449
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,079
that's a potential well you know so uh

1450
00:57:01,849 --> 00:57:00,240
what would it uh Enlighten self-interest

1451
00:57:03,710 --> 00:57:01,859
I think the phrases

1452
00:57:05,809 --> 00:57:03,720
all right let's uh and you know what

1453
00:57:08,089 --> 00:57:05,819
Dave uh send us the link for the article

1454
00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:08,099
it's on Liberation times I'll put that

1455
00:57:12,349 --> 00:57:10,740
in the show notes along with it there's

1456
00:57:13,970 --> 00:57:12,359
another one actually so it's a better

1457
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:13,980
one it's a more detail on The Liberation

1458
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:16,559
times one's all right but it was uh it's

1459
00:57:22,010 --> 00:57:19,500
on UK I'll send you the link anyway so

1460
00:57:24,349 --> 00:57:22,020
Ash Ellis's website I think it's UK

1461
00:57:26,329 --> 00:57:24,359
identified that gives you a detailed

1462
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:26,339
treatment of the stuff so which is

1463
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,280
probably more useful people we will link

1464
00:57:34,190 --> 00:57:30,960
it into the show notes under Dave

1465
00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:34,200
smether's contact info uh Debs you're up

1466
00:57:38,809 --> 00:57:36,180
my friend yeah I'm just really

1467
00:57:41,809 --> 00:57:38,819
interested in how often these structures

1468
00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:41,819
are connected to Star systems

1469
00:57:46,670 --> 00:57:44,040
um interested in what seems to be our

1470
00:57:48,650 --> 00:57:46,680
attempt to always reach the sky

1471
00:57:50,089 --> 00:57:48,660
and I was wondering what your thoughts

1472
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:50,099
are on that

1473
00:57:53,329 --> 00:57:52,079
so reaching this guy I don't know if we

1474
00:57:56,690 --> 00:57:53,339
were doing that with anything except

1475
00:57:59,390 --> 00:57:56,700
maybe vermana but uh as far as feeling

1476
00:58:02,390 --> 00:57:59,400
connected to the universe I think they

1477
00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:02,400
definitely had a better connection to

1478
00:58:07,490 --> 00:58:05,220
their environment than we do today I we

1479
00:58:09,890 --> 00:58:07,500
most of us that live in cities

1480
00:58:11,870 --> 00:58:09,900
I don't live in the city if you live in

1481
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:11,880
a city you don't see a lot of stars but

1482
00:58:16,849 --> 00:58:14,400
at night time when there were no street

1483
00:58:18,349 --> 00:58:16,859
lights that was the show that was TV

1484
00:58:20,990 --> 00:58:18,359
that was your phone you would go outside

1485
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:21,000
and you would stare at the stars and

1486
00:58:23,930 --> 00:58:22,559
wonder I'm sure there was a lot of that

1487
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:23,940
going on

1488
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:25,680
um so I think that I think they had a

1489
00:58:29,450 --> 00:58:28,079
particular reverence for that because it

1490
00:58:32,089 --> 00:58:29,460
was

1491
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:32,099
beyond the ability for them to reach so

1492
00:58:36,589 --> 00:58:34,319
that all they could do was use their

1493
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,599
analytical thought to think about it and

1494
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:38,880
try to figure out what it means and what

1495
00:58:43,849 --> 00:58:40,799
does it mean to see those things out

1496
00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:43,859
there when we're here on this ground on

1497
00:58:47,930 --> 00:58:45,900
this Earth so I think they were

1498
00:58:49,849 --> 00:58:47,940
basically kind of paying homage to it

1499
00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:49,859
and it became a valuable asset too when

1500
00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:51,660
they started to do things like plant

1501
00:58:55,370 --> 00:58:53,160
crops and they started keeping a

1502
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:55,380
calendar and then one of the things that

1503
00:59:01,490 --> 00:58:58,559
blows my mind is that the ancient people

1504
00:59:04,089 --> 00:59:01,500
were able to detect that the Earth has a

1505
00:59:07,789 --> 00:59:04,099
wobble to it it's called progression

1506
00:59:09,890 --> 00:59:07,799
procession procession recession and it's

1507
00:59:13,250 --> 00:59:09,900
a wobble in the Earth's axis that

1508
00:59:16,609 --> 00:59:13,260
completes a full cycle every like 26 000

1509
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:16,619
years so over the course of 72 years the

1510
00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:19,920
stars in the sky shift one degree that

1511
00:59:23,390 --> 00:59:21,720
means and and what was the life

1512
00:59:25,609 --> 00:59:23,400
expectancy of people

1513
00:59:27,650 --> 00:59:25,619
ten thousand years ago seven thousand

1514
00:59:32,089 --> 00:59:27,660
years ago probably not 72 years so how

1515
00:59:34,730 --> 00:59:32,099
did they first of all map the Stars

1516
00:59:38,750 --> 00:59:34,740
second map them so accurately that they

1517
00:59:40,609 --> 00:59:38,760
could detect from in one lifetime or it

1518
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:40,619
transfer that information to multiple

1519
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:43,440
lifetimes to see the change in it and

1520
00:59:48,049 --> 00:59:45,359
then calculate how much it was and then

1521
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,059
be able to make adjustments to their

1522
00:59:53,870 --> 00:59:51,119
their information uh accordingly so that

1523
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:53,880
to me is really telling and that is

1524
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,200
actually a way that they used to date

1525
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:57,359
some of these sites or

1526
01:00:03,049 --> 01:00:00,000
in in Graham Hancock's case sometimes he

1527
01:00:06,289 --> 01:00:03,059
uses those types of connections to date

1528
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,299
them older than what current archeology

1529
01:00:10,970 --> 01:00:08,400
um attributes to those those particular

1530
01:00:12,410 --> 01:00:10,980
sites so it's it's very interesting that

1531
01:00:13,730 --> 01:00:12,420
they have such a connection with the

1532
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:13,740
Stars

1533
01:00:17,210 --> 01:00:16,079
um but I also am fascinated by the

1534
01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:17,220
connection that they had to their

1535
01:00:21,950 --> 01:00:19,500
environment on the earth and the biggest

1536
01:00:25,549 --> 01:00:21,960
example to me is the

1537
01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:25,559
um DNT Connection in Ayahuasca how they

1538
01:00:30,770 --> 01:00:27,660
had to find this one plant

1539
01:00:32,809 --> 01:00:30,780
to combine with this other plant that

1540
01:00:35,270 --> 01:00:32,819
allowed the effect to take place and the

1541
01:00:36,890 --> 01:00:35,280
first plant made japuke for a long time

1542
01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:36,900
like why would you take something that

1543
01:00:39,950 --> 01:00:38,400
makes you feel so bad and then turn

1544
01:00:42,109 --> 01:00:39,960
around and take something else and it

1545
01:00:45,470 --> 01:00:42,119
gave you this enlightening experience

1546
01:00:47,690 --> 01:00:45,480
like how did they determine that those

1547
01:00:48,890 --> 01:00:47,700
things work together I know a lot of

1548
01:00:50,990 --> 01:00:48,900
people are just going to say trial and

1549
01:00:52,250 --> 01:00:51,000
error but I've seen the numbers I can't

1550
01:00:55,250 --> 01:00:52,260
remember what they are right now but

1551
01:00:56,750 --> 01:00:55,260
it's like a bajillion to one chance that

1552
01:01:00,770 --> 01:00:56,760
they'd be able to find the combination

1553
01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:00,780
of the plant the process the consumption

1554
01:01:06,170 --> 01:01:03,540
and then the repeat that again with the

1555
01:01:07,730 --> 01:01:06,180
with the second half of it of the

1556
01:01:10,190 --> 01:01:07,740
equation to make it actually be

1557
01:01:13,010 --> 01:01:10,200
effective so how did they know what how

1558
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,020
were they able to to deduce this

1559
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:15,599
formula without the the use of

1560
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:18,119
microscope so that's the use of a

1561
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,160
chemical industry that we have right now

1562
01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:22,079
it's amazing to me that they had this

1563
01:01:26,569 --> 01:01:24,299
connection with our planet and it

1564
01:01:29,329 --> 01:01:26,579
extended into the stars and we don't

1565
01:01:30,829 --> 01:01:29,339
have that right now that's what I want I

1566
01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:30,839
want us to get back to the point where

1567
01:01:34,609 --> 01:01:32,700
we do have that connection with our

1568
01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:34,619
environment and we will learn things

1569
01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:37,619
that we have just overlooked I think

1570
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:39,119
we've become the disconnected

1571
01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:42,240
spiritually from our planet and there's

1572
01:01:47,170 --> 01:01:45,119
a lot that we stand to gain by trying to

1573
01:01:50,809 --> 01:01:47,180
re-establish that connection

1574
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:50,819
amen say it again brother now I'm out of

1575
01:01:57,049 --> 01:01:53,720
words I gotta take it right

1576
01:01:58,849 --> 01:01:57,059
uh Dave Smathers yeah he's a really

1577
01:02:00,589 --> 01:01:58,859
interesting question that I don't know

1578
01:02:02,809 --> 01:02:00,599
because those are these ancient sites

1579
01:02:04,430 --> 01:02:02,819
they're aligned well you've got they're

1580
01:02:07,069 --> 01:02:04,440
aligned to a lot of different star

1581
01:02:08,990 --> 01:02:07,079
systems particularly in Malta and it

1582
01:02:10,670 --> 01:02:09,000
will all over the place all over all

1583
01:02:12,049 --> 01:02:10,680
over the globe they're aligned and I

1584
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:12,059
don't know the answer to that question

1585
01:02:16,430 --> 01:02:14,280
clearly what are the implications is

1586
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:16,440
that there's some sole homage to some

1587
01:02:20,030 --> 01:02:17,760
contact with extraterrestrial

1588
01:02:22,130 --> 01:02:20,040
civilizations or something like that but

1589
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:22,140
I don't think anyone's definitively

1590
01:02:25,809 --> 01:02:24,720
answered that that question globeki Tepe

1591
01:02:28,609 --> 01:02:25,819
was a right

1592
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:28,619
to some other ones it's serious

1593
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:32,160
just Draco and uh Ryan's Belt obviously

1594
01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:33,359
the Great Pyramids are built like

1595
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:35,640
Orion's Belt so that's interesting so I

1596
01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:37,440
I don't really know the answer to that

1597
01:02:42,349 --> 01:02:39,240
because it could imply some sort of link

1598
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,359
again to the star people or it could be

1599
01:02:46,970 --> 01:02:44,880
something else in their belief system uh

1600
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,980
you know or maybe it could be a warning

1601
01:02:50,569 --> 01:02:48,720
for us I suppose as well that could be

1602
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:50,579
that you know like leaving us a warning

1603
01:02:55,130 --> 01:02:53,280
but we can't ignore but as Dan was

1604
01:02:56,809 --> 01:02:55,140
saying the agents had a brilliant uh

1605
01:02:58,910 --> 01:02:56,819
knowledge of Sumerians and a fantastic

1606
01:03:00,829 --> 01:02:58,920
knowledge of star systems some of which

1607
01:03:02,750 --> 01:03:00,839
we can't see today so how did you do

1608
01:03:05,210 --> 01:03:02,760
that if we couldn't see him that would

1609
01:03:06,829 --> 01:03:05,220
imply passed on by a more sophisticated

1610
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:06,839
Tech like you said they've got a

1611
01:03:11,770 --> 01:03:09,420
knowledge of possession you know uh one

1612
01:03:14,510 --> 01:03:11,780
of the precession numbers is 40 the

1613
01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:14,520
pyramid is a scale model of the Earth or

1614
01:03:18,829 --> 01:03:16,680
the top half of the Earth and if you

1615
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:18,839
divide it by 44 and that's one of the

1616
01:03:22,910 --> 01:03:20,400
processional numbers you see these

1617
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:22,920
processional numbers they tend to loads

1618
01:03:26,990 --> 01:03:24,240
of different buildings and these

1619
01:03:29,390 --> 01:03:27,000
relationships to such an extent I think

1620
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:29,400
it's beyond coincidence I mean I know

1621
01:03:33,289 --> 01:03:30,960
down it sound sounds like others and

1622
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,299
other things you've got the Mayans who

1623
01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:35,280
had this great knowledge of eclipses and

1624
01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:37,020
again these massive calendars going back

1625
01:03:41,030 --> 01:03:39,180
out into doing that it was a tribe who's

1626
01:03:42,829 --> 01:03:41,040
never forget they did a dance showing

1627
01:03:43,970 --> 01:03:42,839
but he knew Draco which is a thing they

1628
01:03:46,250 --> 01:03:43,980
couldn't see

1629
01:03:48,049 --> 01:03:46,260
anyway so it's a very old knowledge

1630
01:03:50,930 --> 01:03:48,059
system there's also knowledge that we've

1631
01:03:54,410 --> 01:03:50,940
mapped the Earth ancient maps show that

1632
01:03:56,510 --> 01:03:54,420
the you know the longitude there's also

1633
01:03:58,609 --> 01:03:56,520
knowledge of around the measurement

1634
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:58,619
scales showing knowledge of the precise

1635
01:04:02,329 --> 01:04:00,240
dimensions of the Earth

1636
01:04:03,650 --> 01:04:02,339
anyway I'm going to start going into all

1637
01:04:06,109 --> 01:04:03,660
that but the point is

1638
01:04:07,970 --> 01:04:06,119
but they're all indications of much

1639
01:04:10,910 --> 01:04:07,980
greater Technical and scientific

1640
01:04:12,049 --> 01:04:10,920
knowledge so I do wonder why they have

1641
01:04:13,130 --> 01:04:12,059
these alignments if it's one of those

1642
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:13,140
things it's a really good question

1643
01:04:16,250 --> 01:04:14,700
because it really pauses me and I

1644
01:04:18,829 --> 01:04:16,260
haven't got a good answer to it because

1645
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:18,839
none of the answers I've just given you

1646
01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:20,640
it's quite convincing if you see what I

1647
01:04:23,569 --> 01:04:21,660
mean

1648
01:04:25,370 --> 01:04:23,579
that's that's what we're here we're here

1649
01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:25,380
to ruminate on all this so we're gonna

1650
01:04:31,069 --> 01:04:27,000
make sure we get a last question by

1651
01:04:32,510 --> 01:04:31,079
everybody uh Mr Frank Jones

1652
01:04:35,210 --> 01:04:32,520
yeah

1653
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,220
the drama I don't know why I always did

1654
01:04:39,589 --> 01:04:37,200
I think you know the first time I was on

1655
01:04:41,210 --> 01:04:39,599
Camp we did the uh The Beatles thing so

1656
01:04:43,089 --> 01:04:41,220
I always feel inclined to do a scout

1657
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:43,099
accent

1658
01:04:48,410 --> 01:04:46,079
I've got half my family are in Liverpool

1659
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:48,420
so uh nobody take offense I hope that

1660
01:04:51,890 --> 01:04:50,640
I'm doing the scouts action uh but yeah

1661
01:04:53,930 --> 01:04:51,900
it's kind of something that you've

1662
01:04:56,450 --> 01:04:53,940
you've all touched on a little bit

1663
01:05:00,109 --> 01:04:56,460
um as you've been going along is is the

1664
01:05:02,210 --> 01:05:00,119
you know the inexplicable accuracy and

1665
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:02,220
the huge objects and things like that in

1666
01:05:06,530 --> 01:05:04,319
the Sarah pm and whatnot

1667
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:06,540
I was actually watching

1668
01:05:10,190 --> 01:05:08,400
um I think it was actually The Joe Rogan

1669
01:05:12,770 --> 01:05:10,200
episode that you talked about Dan the

1670
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:12,780
one with um Ben from Uncharted x with

1671
01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:14,880
the Jimmy corsetti I think his name is

1672
01:05:20,089 --> 01:05:17,700
and there was a bit in there where

1673
01:05:22,430 --> 01:05:20,099
Ben was talking about the accuracy of

1674
01:05:24,289 --> 01:05:22,440
some of these uh I think it was a vars

1675
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:24,299
that they actually had

1676
01:05:29,630 --> 01:05:25,920
um analyzed with like a structured light

1677
01:05:31,730 --> 01:05:29,640
analysis and um apparently the the

1678
01:05:35,569 --> 01:05:31,740
actual measurements are accurate to

1679
01:05:37,370 --> 01:05:35,579
within a thousandth of an inch and he

1680
01:05:40,250 --> 01:05:37,380
actually I wrote this down because it

1681
01:05:42,349 --> 01:05:40,260
blew my mind a sheet of paper is

1682
01:05:44,990 --> 01:05:42,359
actually about seven thousands of an

1683
01:05:47,390 --> 01:05:45,000
inch thick and a human hair is two to

1684
01:05:48,890 --> 01:05:47,400
three thousands of an inch thick and

1685
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,900
these things were accurate to you know

1686
01:05:52,970 --> 01:05:50,400
within a thousands of an inch it really

1687
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:52,980
underlines how unbelievably accurate you

1688
01:05:57,710 --> 01:05:55,680
know it was and you also think about

1689
01:05:59,690 --> 01:05:57,720
the size of some of these objects and

1690
01:06:02,270 --> 01:05:59,700
how they're moved around and the the

1691
01:06:04,670 --> 01:06:02,280
walls in Machu Picchu is it with the

1692
01:06:06,829 --> 01:06:04,680
interlocking huge blocks I'm just

1693
01:06:09,410 --> 01:06:06,839
wondering if you guys have like a

1694
01:06:12,289 --> 01:06:09,420
hypothesis about what type of technology

1695
01:06:15,170 --> 01:06:12,299
that we're actually using to to do this

1696
01:06:16,490 --> 01:06:15,180
because it's just it seems unbelievable

1697
01:06:18,170 --> 01:06:16,500
that they'll be able to do that all

1698
01:06:19,730 --> 01:06:18,180
those thousands of years ago you know

1699
01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:19,740
there's obviously perhaps like a

1700
01:06:24,770 --> 01:06:22,140
resonance type of Technology like some

1701
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:24,780
kind of machines or maybe even like a

1702
01:06:28,910 --> 01:06:27,480
Consciousness aspect to it somehow so

1703
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:28,920
yeah just wonder what you guys thoughts

1704
01:06:33,230 --> 01:06:30,480
are on that

1705
01:06:35,630 --> 01:06:33,240
man let's up everybody's damn 401K with

1706
01:06:37,730 --> 01:06:35,640
questions like this man go ahead all

1707
01:06:39,770 --> 01:06:37,740
right so I I'm real familiar with those

1708
01:06:41,930 --> 01:06:39,780
vases or vases that you're talking about

1709
01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:41,940
and they're supposed to have been made

1710
01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:43,380
by hand

1711
01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:47,220
I can grab a tube of Play-Doh and try to

1712
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:50,760
make something Square looks terrible by

1713
01:06:55,549 --> 01:06:53,039
hand like so that so for me to believe

1714
01:06:57,890 --> 01:06:55,559
that they can make these things as

1715
01:06:59,809 --> 01:06:57,900
accurate as they did and it's not just

1716
01:07:03,230 --> 01:06:59,819
that they made them like a surface is

1717
01:07:04,609 --> 01:07:03,240
flat they made them flat in relation to

1718
01:07:07,789 --> 01:07:04,619
each other so there's something called

1719
01:07:09,710 --> 01:07:07,799
geometric tolerancing where if you have

1720
01:07:12,349 --> 01:07:09,720
a vertical surface and you have a

1721
01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:12,359
horizontal surface for example if they

1722
01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:13,920
are 90 degrees apart from each other

1723
01:07:19,730 --> 01:07:17,460
that's a geometrical reference so the

1724
01:07:21,650 --> 01:07:19,740
the dimensions the parallel lines

1725
01:07:23,450 --> 01:07:21,660
between the bottom and the top of these

1726
01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:23,460
vases is what you're talking about like

1727
01:07:29,630 --> 01:07:26,220
the Precision between

1728
01:07:31,309 --> 01:07:29,640
parts of these vases that are that are

1729
01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:31,319
distance from each other it's just

1730
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,900
ridiculously accurate and over the top

1731
01:07:39,170 --> 01:07:35,520
for something that is just supposed to

1732
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:39,180
be used for storing flour or who knows

1733
01:07:42,829 --> 01:07:41,039
what they were using them for and

1734
01:07:44,569 --> 01:07:42,839
there's so many of them too that's one

1735
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:44,579
of the other aspects of it but something

1736
01:07:48,829 --> 01:07:47,039
else that shouldn't be glossed over is

1737
01:07:51,650 --> 01:07:48,839
the hardness of the stone that was used

1738
01:07:54,349 --> 01:07:51,660
to produce these things they are very

1739
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:54,359
hard on the moh scale which is just how

1740
01:07:58,370 --> 01:07:55,920
you determine how hard something is

1741
01:08:02,329 --> 01:07:58,380
diamonds being the hardest Plato being

1742
01:08:05,329 --> 01:08:02,339
the softest and so there's just a that

1743
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:05,339
factor of it and then the thinness of

1744
01:08:10,309 --> 01:08:08,640
the vases of the walls themselves so

1745
01:08:11,630 --> 01:08:10,319
they were able to make to form the

1746
01:08:13,309 --> 01:08:11,640
outside of it and then they have to

1747
01:08:15,470 --> 01:08:13,319
remove the material from the inside of

1748
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:15,480
it and get it to the point where it was

1749
01:08:20,990 --> 01:08:18,000
as thin so you could see light like

1750
01:08:23,090 --> 01:08:21,000
flashlight through it it's just amazing

1751
01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:23,100
that they were able to do that thing

1752
01:08:27,709 --> 01:08:25,440
um I'm rambling on about these vases and

1753
01:08:30,890 --> 01:08:27,719
I think I've forgot question can you

1754
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,900
help me with that again I'm sorry yes no

1755
01:08:34,249 --> 01:08:32,400
that's cool man not really interesting

1756
01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:34,259
it's not rambly but the question was

1757
01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:36,600
just like what kind of techno technology

1758
01:08:40,130 --> 01:08:38,460
and it would have been that they would

1759
01:08:42,829 --> 01:08:40,140
have been able to create that level of

1760
01:08:44,930 --> 01:08:42,839
accuracy so my my brother actually asked

1761
01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:44,940
me a question similar to this last week

1762
01:08:49,249 --> 01:08:46,980
and I was kind of stumped because he was

1763
01:08:51,709 --> 01:08:49,259
like Hey if if these people were making

1764
01:08:53,390 --> 01:08:51,719
tools or making tools that were able to

1765
01:08:55,130 --> 01:08:53,400
produce these products that were so

1766
01:08:57,410 --> 01:08:55,140
Advanced how come we haven't been

1767
01:08:58,970 --> 01:08:57,420
finding the tools so that made me think

1768
01:09:01,309 --> 01:08:58,980
that's a good question because you have

1769
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:01,319
to use something harder than the

1770
01:09:06,169 --> 01:09:04,020
material you're working to be able to

1771
01:09:07,729 --> 01:09:06,179
manipulate it and and change it so that

1772
01:09:09,769 --> 01:09:07,739
means that you got to use Diamond to cut

1773
01:09:12,410 --> 01:09:09,779
Granite you got to use harder materials

1774
01:09:14,030 --> 01:09:12,420
to cut softer materials so why wouldn't

1775
01:09:17,090 --> 01:09:14,040
they have survived why wouldn't we have

1776
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:17,100
found them that is a very valid question

1777
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:20,880
and so what what I always go to is

1778
01:09:25,789 --> 01:09:23,279
um maybe they're older than we realized

1779
01:09:29,450 --> 01:09:25,799
and they were so valuable and um

1780
01:09:32,030 --> 01:09:29,460
that they got reused repurposed or maybe

1781
01:09:37,249 --> 01:09:32,040
they got buried maybe that's what the

1782
01:09:38,809 --> 01:09:37,259
big the chambers the bull coffins uh

1783
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:38,819
I'm forgetting this I want to say in

1784
01:09:42,650 --> 01:09:41,040
Sakara but I can't the mother down in

1785
01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:42,660
the depths of the earth that we talked

1786
01:09:46,010 --> 01:09:44,460
about in the beginning uh maybe that's

1787
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:46,020
what they did maybe they stored their

1788
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:47,279
Tools in there maybe those are giant

1789
01:09:51,289 --> 01:09:48,960
toolboxes and we just don't realize it

1790
01:09:54,050 --> 01:09:51,299
but I don't know where it is if you

1791
01:09:55,790 --> 01:09:54,060
watch Brian Forrester videos that guy

1792
01:09:58,130 --> 01:09:55,800
has done some excellent work on trying

1793
01:10:00,890 --> 01:09:58,140
to establish what types of tools were

1794
01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:00,900
used there are circular saw marks that

1795
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:04,080
be it would be an indication of a

1796
01:10:09,650 --> 01:10:06,719
saw like a I think he said it was like a

1797
01:10:11,209 --> 01:10:09,660
two foot diameter or radius saw blade

1798
01:10:13,970 --> 01:10:11,219
that would have been used to slice some

1799
01:10:16,130 --> 01:10:13,980
of these Limestone blocks in Egypt so I

1800
01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:16,140
think that's a possibility I also think

1801
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:17,820
that these things could be so old that

1802
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:19,440
the tools that were used decayed over

1803
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:23,280
time as well so who I don't know is my

1804
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,679
final answer I guess I'll say

1805
01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:27,600
no that's I also want to ask when are

1806
01:10:32,810 --> 01:10:29,219
you and your family going to Machu

1807
01:10:34,570 --> 01:10:32,820
Picchu Dan uh next Sprint and I I don't

1808
01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:34,580
have any plans on going anytime soon

1809
01:10:39,290 --> 01:10:37,980
come on man you need to go you need to

1810
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:39,300
go David

1811
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:41,580
yeah I I think they use the combination

1812
01:10:46,490 --> 01:10:43,920
of Sonics and electromagnetics to do it

1813
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:46,500
particularly Sonics and the distributed

1814
01:10:49,729 --> 01:10:48,060
the atomic structure of the things today

1815
01:10:52,130 --> 01:10:49,739
because some of those vases you couldn't

1816
01:10:54,530 --> 01:10:52,140
get any tool into doing so I think it

1817
01:10:56,450 --> 01:10:54,540
was like some sort of manipulated Force

1818
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,460
mainly Sonic because I think they use

1819
01:11:00,530 --> 01:10:58,560
Sonic's for lived in as well along with

1820
01:11:01,910 --> 01:11:00,540
electron magnets and they used they

1821
01:11:04,729 --> 01:11:01,920
could force that they're like 3D

1822
01:11:06,169 --> 01:11:04,739
printing only control it and actually

1823
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:06,179
drill them out like that and I think

1824
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:07,679
they used a load of things like that in

1825
01:11:12,649 --> 01:11:10,320
those big caves in China were very well

1826
01:11:15,410 --> 01:11:12,659
look very well machined is that it's

1827
01:11:17,330 --> 01:11:15,420
almost like they've blasted the atomic

1828
01:11:19,490 --> 01:11:17,340
particles out of there there wasn't much

1829
01:11:21,350 --> 01:11:19,500
debris as well apparently from them and

1830
01:11:23,810 --> 01:11:21,360
again you can see the marks that so I

1831
01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:23,820
think they were using feel things to do

1832
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:25,800
a lot of The Cutting I also did write

1833
01:11:29,810 --> 01:11:27,840
about big waves there's loads of

1834
01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:29,820
evidence of like industrial waves on the

1835
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:32,040
statues a lot of those statues that

1836
01:11:36,649 --> 01:11:33,600
they've got are so precise Crystal

1837
01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:36,659
Network and that we we could hardly do

1838
01:11:40,430 --> 01:11:38,580
it today you've got to use decent lathe

1839
01:11:42,350 --> 01:11:40,440
some of them are settled filet views as

1840
01:11:45,229 --> 01:11:42,360
well on the cut like they've been on a

1841
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:45,239
lathe so that's some tech you know you

1842
01:11:49,070 --> 01:11:47,280
know for them to be able

1843
01:11:51,709 --> 01:11:49,080
to do that so I think it's a combination

1844
01:11:54,110 --> 01:11:51,719
of sort of good machines in second and

1845
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,120
use of Sonics and things and levitation

1846
01:11:58,370 --> 01:11:56,880
through that of course we haven't seen I

1847
01:11:59,689 --> 01:11:58,380
do think some metal tools would have

1848
01:12:01,669 --> 01:11:59,699
perished by now though that's one

1849
01:12:03,649 --> 01:12:01,679
argument about the tools you wouldn't

1850
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:03,659
have lasted as long as the stone as well

1851
01:12:08,270 --> 01:12:06,719
it's interesting in Sakara just to get

1852
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:08,280
back to things getting older that which

1853
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,080
was whipping as a permanent Dozer they

1854
01:12:13,729 --> 01:12:12,239
found all those vases thousands of them

1855
01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:13,739
they've never found them again they

1856
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,120
never appeared again they were just

1857
01:12:20,330 --> 01:12:17,280
obviously collected by the old them king

1858
01:12:21,709 --> 01:12:20,340
of pharaoh shoved down there and we you

1859
01:12:24,050 --> 01:12:21,719
know and they were from an older time

1860
01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:24,060
and again they never were replicated

1861
01:12:28,669 --> 01:12:26,940
once again evidencing their existence

1862
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:28,679
but that's what I think it is Frank I

1863
01:12:33,649 --> 01:12:30,960
think they were manipulating Sonics on

1864
01:12:34,729 --> 01:12:33,659
it because particularly those bars I

1865
01:12:36,350 --> 01:12:34,739
can't understand that they could have

1866
01:12:37,970 --> 01:12:36,360
done that with a tool and I think

1867
01:12:39,770 --> 01:12:37,980
there's something like 3D printing

1868
01:12:42,350 --> 01:12:39,780
probably going on to get there as well

1869
01:12:43,970 --> 01:12:42,360
and I did wonder and that was where the

1870
01:12:45,709 --> 01:12:43,980
psionic stuff going which is really

1871
01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:45,719
going out on the limb and I'm already

1872
01:12:51,229 --> 01:12:48,420
out in about four hours uh with all this

1873
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:51,239
uh you know uh where some of the size

1874
01:12:55,610 --> 01:12:53,040
stuff could have manipulated the field

1875
01:12:57,470 --> 01:12:55,620
of the where the force went and all the

1876
01:12:59,870 --> 01:12:57,480
rest of it which may be taken a bit far

1877
01:13:01,070 --> 01:12:59,880
but just one last thing about this stuff

1878
01:13:03,350 --> 01:13:01,080
the lives

1879
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:03,360
so the thinking is that someone else

1880
01:13:06,890 --> 01:13:05,100
sophisticated statues that you can tell

1881
01:13:08,990 --> 01:13:06,900
are exactly symmetrical and perfectly

1882
01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:09,000
machined we're actually from the older

1883
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,100
civilizations and the Egyptians

1884
01:13:15,709 --> 01:13:13,440
repurposed them as their statues so when

1885
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:15,719
you're looking at those on the Telly on

1886
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:17,520
the temples or in the thing you might

1887
01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:19,920
actually be looking at how these older

1888
01:13:23,570 --> 01:13:21,420
civilizations were dressed without

1889
01:13:25,610 --> 01:13:23,580
knowing it you might be looking at them

1890
01:13:27,950 --> 01:13:25,620
directly which always blows my head up

1891
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:27,960
when I think about that

1892
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:30,000
I'll tell you what

1893
01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:32,400
um I was thinking Jules and I were

1894
01:13:37,729 --> 01:13:34,920
thinking at the same time the same thing

1895
01:13:38,510 --> 01:13:37,739
is about as edlas galnin if that's his

1896
01:13:39,130 --> 01:13:38,520
name

1897
01:13:41,810 --> 01:13:39,140
um

1898
01:13:43,370 --> 01:13:41,820
thank you yeah the Coral Castle in

1899
01:13:45,709 --> 01:13:43,380
Homestead

1900
01:13:48,410 --> 01:13:45,719
um so this is coming from someone who

1901
01:13:52,189 --> 01:13:48,420
has not done the work that uh Dave

1902
01:13:55,130 --> 01:13:52,199
smothers and Dan Dan Warren have done I

1903
01:13:59,390 --> 01:13:55,140
think that he used the same process that

1904
01:14:01,910 --> 01:13:59,400
they used in ancient Egypt but he set up

1905
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:01,920
a couple of those tripods as a ruse

1906
01:14:08,270 --> 01:14:05,280
because they were not well placed to be

1907
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:08,280
able to lift and move the rocks that

1908
01:14:14,510 --> 01:14:11,760
were the size that he moved uh is my

1909
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:14,520
opinion uh on that but you know what I

1910
01:14:18,590 --> 01:14:16,800
want to let Davey get his question in

1911
01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:18,600
there and then we'll we'll get to

1912
01:14:22,970 --> 01:14:20,340
jules's question about that so let's

1913
01:14:25,250 --> 01:14:22,980
let's revisit that in a second but Davey

1914
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:25,260
please go ahead my friend absolutely and

1915
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:28,320
I I love Dave's comments around

1916
01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:31,199
Sonics and using electromagnetics and

1917
01:14:36,649 --> 01:14:33,360
it's certainly anybody

1918
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,659
who hasn't done should Google the robot

1919
01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:38,400
that they've just melted

1920
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:40,920
and reformed using electromagnetics at

1921
01:14:44,330 --> 01:14:42,719
Carnegie Mellon

1922
01:14:46,910 --> 01:14:44,340
we're starting to do it now with certain

1923
01:14:48,290 --> 01:14:46,920
Metals let's say maybe earlier

1924
01:14:50,209 --> 01:14:48,300
civilizations were doing it with other

1925
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:50,219
substances

1926
01:14:54,890 --> 01:14:52,800
um so my question is

1927
01:14:57,470 --> 01:14:54,900
you're probably familiar with the likes

1928
01:15:00,050 --> 01:14:57,480
of Ley lines and dragon paths or Spirit

1929
01:15:01,850 --> 01:15:00,060
lines as the Incas called them a as the

1930
01:15:03,410 --> 01:15:01,860
Aboriginal Australians call them song

1931
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:03,420
lines

1932
01:15:08,689 --> 01:15:06,120
do you place any Credence in possible

1933
01:15:10,610 --> 01:15:08,699
energy lines aligning with these

1934
01:15:12,410 --> 01:15:10,620
buildings that being part of this

1935
01:15:13,970 --> 01:15:12,420
ancient civilization or ancient

1936
01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:13,980
structures

1937
01:15:19,490 --> 01:15:16,320
I don't think that it would make it

1938
01:15:22,970 --> 01:15:19,500
particularly easier to manufacture the

1939
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:22,980
stone and stack the stone but I'm not

1940
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:24,960
super familiar with the Ley lines and

1941
01:15:30,770 --> 01:15:27,600
what people uh purport that they're able

1942
01:15:35,149 --> 01:15:30,780
to help Humanity with do I think there

1943
01:15:37,490 --> 01:15:35,159
are sinners of increased energy in

1944
01:15:39,950 --> 01:15:37,500
around the globe yeah I think that's an

1945
01:15:41,689 --> 01:15:39,960
actual factual thing how to prove that I

1946
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:41,699
don't know if anyone has I don't know

1947
01:15:46,010 --> 01:15:43,920
but I think that also would contribute

1948
01:15:48,729 --> 01:15:46,020
to some of the

1949
01:15:51,649 --> 01:15:48,739
stranger aspects of

1950
01:15:54,890 --> 01:15:51,659
life on our planet that could

1951
01:15:56,450 --> 01:15:54,900
potentially be impacted by that

1952
01:15:58,910 --> 01:15:56,460
particular

1953
01:16:01,850 --> 01:15:58,920
energy like when we talk about portals

1954
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:01,860
earlier maybe that's the energy at those

1955
01:16:06,649 --> 01:16:04,800
Ley lines where they cross maybe it is

1956
01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:06,659
magnified and someone has figured out a

1957
01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:09,420
way to manipulate it to benefit them so

1958
01:16:15,709 --> 01:16:12,239
as far as what those things or how those

1959
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:15,719
Ley lines are valuable to humanity I I

1960
01:16:20,570 --> 01:16:18,000
don't have a lot of guesses on that one

1961
01:16:22,910 --> 01:16:20,580
unfortunately right now but the the

1962
01:16:23,930 --> 01:16:22,920
dowel rod trick where they can find

1963
01:16:27,290 --> 01:16:23,940
water

1964
01:16:30,770 --> 01:16:27,300
uh using two sticks makes me think that

1965
01:16:32,209 --> 01:16:30,780
if water crossing under traveling in a

1966
01:16:34,030 --> 01:16:32,219
stream underneath the ground can

1967
01:16:37,610 --> 01:16:34,040
manipulate sticks above the ground

1968
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:37,620
whatever the leyline energy is and

1969
01:16:43,370 --> 01:16:41,520
represents can change things above above

1970
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:43,380
that area as well so it may it would

1971
01:16:49,130 --> 01:16:45,840
make sense to me that there is an impact

1972
01:16:50,750 --> 01:16:49,140
on the surface from what's going on at

1973
01:16:53,090 --> 01:16:50,760
those areas but I don't know what it is

1974
01:16:55,130 --> 01:16:53,100
I haven't dug into that too deeply to be

1975
01:16:59,390 --> 01:16:55,140
honest

1976
01:17:01,550 --> 01:16:59,400
yeah I was going to say uh uh Dave that

1977
01:17:02,930 --> 01:17:01,560
as far as the centers of energy isn't

1978
01:17:05,390 --> 01:17:02,940
that where you're hiding in that church

1979
01:17:10,270 --> 01:17:05,400
in Scotland you got that that that cup

1980
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:13,070
yeah I mean getting back to like that

1981
01:17:18,350 --> 01:17:15,120
just that Coral Castle guy he actually

1982
01:17:19,970 --> 01:17:18,360
said but uh he said it guys I worked out

1983
01:17:22,130 --> 01:17:19,980
the ancient Egyptians have done it

1984
01:17:24,050 --> 01:17:22,140
already knew however they knew and it

1985
01:17:25,370 --> 01:17:24,060
was we fundamentally misunderstood the

1986
01:17:27,169 --> 01:17:25,380
nature of gravitated it was all

1987
01:17:29,689 --> 01:17:27,179
electromagnetics that was a quote from

1988
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:29,699
him so that that's really interesting as

1989
01:17:34,850 --> 01:17:32,400
far to as far to lay lines I do think

1990
01:17:36,770 --> 01:17:34,860
the real energy we just haven't detected

1991
01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:36,780
yet we're not aware of there's too many

1992
01:17:41,209 --> 01:17:38,580
ancient buildings we're aligned to it

1993
01:17:44,570 --> 01:17:41,219
for it to be uh you know for it to be a

1994
01:17:46,970 --> 01:17:44,580
chance and you see a lot of the medieval

1995
01:17:49,250 --> 01:17:46,980
uh medieval monasteries are actually

1996
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:49,260
aligned to them now as well same sort of

1997
01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:51,120
thing where like there's a deep ancient

1998
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:53,520
Pagan thing and I think there were some

1999
01:17:57,709 --> 01:17:55,440
sort of sentence of power to draw I

2000
01:17:59,330 --> 01:17:57,719
don't know someone is just again it's an

2001
01:18:00,830 --> 01:17:59,340
energy we can't use because we're not

2002
01:18:02,450 --> 01:18:00,840
used to it might even have been a sort

2003
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:02,460
of psychic connection or something like

2004
01:18:06,169 --> 01:18:04,800
that there's a theory but the pyramids

2005
01:18:08,570 --> 01:18:06,179
funnily enough one of the functions

2006
01:18:10,610 --> 01:18:08,580
because they're all over the world uh

2007
01:18:12,649 --> 01:18:10,620
was a function was to control the sort

2008
01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:12,659
of geomagnetic fluctuations in the

2009
01:18:18,110 --> 01:18:14,940
planet as well as use the energy

2010
01:18:19,970 --> 01:18:18,120
and uh and and part of the thing the

2011
01:18:21,890 --> 01:18:19,980
pyramid again is it's got burn marks on

2012
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:21,900
it it blew out because there was a

2013
01:18:25,850 --> 01:18:23,760
massive surge in that geomagnetically

2014
01:18:28,189 --> 01:18:25,860
one of the cataclysms so anyway the

2015
01:18:30,290 --> 01:18:28,199
point being I think there is some sort

2016
01:18:32,090 --> 01:18:30,300
of relationship between Ley lines and

2017
01:18:34,010 --> 01:18:32,100
the ancient monuments you can clearly

2018
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:34,020
see it and it's probably a subtle energy

2019
01:18:40,490 --> 01:18:37,920
we can detect I mean I I again as we

2020
01:18:42,530 --> 01:18:40,500
were about this it's big speculation and

2021
01:18:44,149 --> 01:18:42,540
it's just my best guess reading stuff

2022
01:18:46,850 --> 01:18:44,159
but I definitely think there's something

2023
01:18:48,169 --> 01:18:46,860
to it and I think in many ways the old

2024
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:48,179
storm Builder

2025
01:18:51,649 --> 01:18:50,159
people I think there might have been a

2026
01:18:52,910 --> 01:18:51,659
Remnant they might have had some things

2027
01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:52,920
that attacked they might have been able

2028
01:18:56,450 --> 01:18:54,840
to lift these big Stones you know Stone

2029
01:18:57,950 --> 01:18:56,460
engine all that but they didn't have

2030
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:57,960
anything else in the tech the new

2031
01:19:00,649 --> 01:18:59,040
acoustics

2032
01:19:02,450 --> 01:19:00,659
but they might not have known anything

2033
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:02,460
else and I think but they might have

2034
01:19:06,530 --> 01:19:04,800
known about that science as well so

2035
01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:06,540
that'd be why they connected them up so

2036
01:19:11,330 --> 01:19:08,880
it's a really I think it's real damage

2037
01:19:13,250 --> 01:19:11,340
it's just it's just another one of those

2038
01:19:15,410 --> 01:19:13,260
things we've lost us to its significance

2039
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:15,420
so we had that missing key we go oh yeah

2040
01:19:19,250 --> 01:19:17,280
that's how it works what we just can't

2041
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:19,260
we just haven't you know as we can make

2042
01:19:23,450 --> 01:19:20,400
that connection

2043
01:19:25,610 --> 01:19:23,460
yeah this energy uh line has been

2044
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:25,620
attributed to a chip shop in mildenhall

2045
01:19:31,490 --> 01:19:28,560
that some say is the best cod in all the

2046
01:19:33,950 --> 01:19:31,500
UK and we can't find another explanation

2047
01:19:35,930 --> 01:19:33,960
for it uh but let me let me go back to

2048
01:19:38,270 --> 01:19:35,940
Dan and let's tackle this question about

2049
01:19:42,110 --> 01:19:38,280
Coral Castle because it's the only

2050
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:42,120
modern example we have where by when uh

2051
01:19:46,430 --> 01:19:43,920
I guess the kids would sort of appear

2052
01:19:48,770 --> 01:19:46,440
into the structure when he was where he

2053
01:19:51,169 --> 01:19:48,780
would stop working and nobody actually

2054
01:19:53,390 --> 01:19:51,179
got to see a whole lot there's a lot of

2055
01:19:55,490 --> 01:19:53,400
mystery there but there's there's the

2056
01:19:58,130 --> 01:19:55,500
question Dan and then we'll we'll go to

2057
01:20:00,290 --> 01:19:58,140
Dave with that go ahead sir

2058
01:20:03,290 --> 01:20:00,300
um I actually bought the pamphlet of

2059
01:20:06,649 --> 01:20:03,300
information from the Coral Castle over

2060
01:20:10,850 --> 01:20:06,659
20 years ago and tried to go through it

2061
01:20:14,570 --> 01:20:10,860
he wrote it in a very non-professional

2062
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:14,580
manner he's basically using

2063
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:17,520
the language that is easy to understand

2064
01:20:22,490 --> 01:20:20,159
for the Layman I guess is how I'll

2065
01:20:25,610 --> 01:20:22,500
describe it and I can kind of I kind of

2066
01:20:27,890 --> 01:20:25,620
saw what he was saying but I wasn't

2067
01:20:30,169 --> 01:20:27,900
believing that that is what he meant to

2068
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:30,179
say I was looking for a code or for

2069
01:20:33,770 --> 01:20:32,159
something written in the text that would

2070
01:20:35,870 --> 01:20:33,780
give the secret away because nothing

2071
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:35,880
that he wrote in any of those

2072
01:20:40,250 --> 01:20:37,920
books or pamphlets or whatever you want

2073
01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:40,260
to call them essays actually told you

2074
01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:41,940
anything about how he moved the stone

2075
01:20:47,090 --> 01:20:44,100
shape the stone or anything like that so

2076
01:20:49,310 --> 01:20:47,100
I think that there is a way to decipher

2077
01:20:51,169 --> 01:20:49,320
the text that he did write and that

2078
01:20:52,970 --> 01:20:51,179
would help you on would help you crack

2079
01:20:54,350 --> 01:20:52,980
the code at least that's what I thought

2080
01:20:56,450 --> 01:20:54,360
at the time that's what I was hoping to

2081
01:20:58,610 --> 01:20:56,460
do but was I was unsuccessful obviously

2082
01:21:00,110 --> 01:20:58,620
or so I'd be living in a Coral Castle

2083
01:21:03,530 --> 01:21:00,120
myself

2084
01:21:05,630 --> 01:21:03,540
um do I think that he figured out a way

2085
01:21:07,550 --> 01:21:05,640
to I don't know if he knew what the

2086
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:07,560
Egyptians knew once again I feel like

2087
01:21:12,590 --> 01:21:09,120
there's different ways to skin the cat

2088
01:21:14,450 --> 01:21:12,600
and based on your toolbox you're gonna

2089
01:21:17,450 --> 01:21:14,460
solve problems with the tools that you

2090
01:21:19,970 --> 01:21:17,460
have available or at your disposal so

2091
01:21:21,470 --> 01:21:19,980
how he did it might vary slightly from

2092
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:21,480
the way the Egyptians did it and he

2093
01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:23,280
might have made the leap of oh yeah this

2094
01:21:27,530 --> 01:21:25,199
is probably how they they did it but he

2095
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:27,540
had a metal crank device that was

2096
01:21:32,570 --> 01:21:29,280
generated that he claimed was generating

2097
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:32,580
some kind of electricity or magnetic

2098
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:35,040
field that he was able to use to move

2099
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:37,199
the stone around one of the things that

2100
01:21:41,450 --> 01:21:39,120
I think is the most incredible fact

2101
01:21:42,830 --> 01:21:41,460
about the Coral Castle is that the

2102
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:42,840
current location is not the original

2103
01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:45,600
location it actually got moved from one

2104
01:21:49,010 --> 01:21:46,800
location

2105
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:49,020
put on a truck and then he unloaded it

2106
01:21:54,410 --> 01:21:50,880
himself and constructed it where it

2107
01:21:56,209 --> 01:21:54,420
currently sits so what that's that's the

2108
01:21:58,370 --> 01:21:56,219
thing to me about the tripods that

2109
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:58,380
throws a flag because

2110
01:22:03,290 --> 01:22:00,480
glyph using the tripod to lift something

2111
01:22:05,630 --> 01:22:03,300
up and down is one thing but reaching

2112
01:22:08,330 --> 01:22:05,640
over grabbing the huge Stone off of a

2113
01:22:10,550 --> 01:22:08,340
truck and moving it I don't know how you

2114
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,560
do that with a tripod maybe I just don't

2115
01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:12,480
know enough of hoisting and rigging to

2116
01:22:16,669 --> 01:22:14,940
be able to figure that out but it really

2117
01:22:19,250 --> 01:22:16,679
jumps out to me is

2118
01:22:21,770 --> 01:22:19,260
something else he was doing

2119
01:22:23,290 --> 01:22:21,780
outside of those tripods that he had on

2120
01:22:26,510 --> 01:22:23,300
there was

2121
01:22:28,010 --> 01:22:26,520
assisting him with his goal there's a

2122
01:22:29,330 --> 01:22:28,020
story about that you know dumb but you

2123
01:22:31,010 --> 01:22:29,340
went you might have heard this he

2124
01:22:32,570 --> 01:22:31,020
apparently the bloke who was on the

2125
01:22:36,050 --> 01:22:32,580
truck when he did it he told him to go

2126
01:22:38,030 --> 01:22:36,060
away for a bit uh and he was off the

2127
01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:38,040
block was off when he come back and

2128
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:39,420
that's that's one of the stories that

2129
01:22:44,689 --> 01:22:42,239
blocked the driver told so this is yeah

2130
01:22:46,189 --> 01:22:44,699
this isn't that you mentioned that this

2131
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:46,199
goes back to something that I've heard

2132
01:22:50,450 --> 01:22:48,480
multiple people talk about and I feel

2133
01:22:53,330 --> 01:22:50,460
like it'd be appropriate to say it for

2134
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:53,340
adley scouting as well is that they

2135
01:22:57,169 --> 01:22:55,199
didn't do it because it was hard they

2136
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:57,179
did it because it was easy for them they

2137
01:23:01,130 --> 01:22:58,320
wouldn't have gone through all this

2138
01:23:04,010 --> 01:23:01,140
effort if it was using a dollar right

2139
01:23:06,649 --> 01:23:04,020
ball to smash on another rock one guy

2140
01:23:08,510 --> 01:23:06,659
for five years to make this one block

2141
01:23:10,010 --> 01:23:08,520
and then they put it in place like if if

2142
01:23:12,290 --> 01:23:10,020
it was that difficult they wouldn't have

2143
01:23:14,510 --> 01:23:12,300
done it something that they were able to

2144
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:14,520
figure out made the manipulation of

2145
01:23:19,970 --> 01:23:18,480
stone the placement of stone easy so

2146
01:23:22,130 --> 01:23:19,980
that's what I think edley scouting

2147
01:23:24,649 --> 01:23:22,140
figured out in one way or the other

2148
01:23:25,790 --> 01:23:24,659
that's what I think our ancients somehow

2149
01:23:27,890 --> 01:23:25,800
figured out

2150
01:23:30,290 --> 01:23:27,900
and we've lost that technology it's it's

2151
01:23:33,470 --> 01:23:30,300
not with us but Randall Carson has

2152
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:33,480
recently been on a mission to basically

2153
01:23:38,990 --> 01:23:36,480
claim that an ancient lost technology

2154
01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,000
has been rediscovered and it's going to

2155
01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:41,760
be coming out uh shortly my

2156
01:23:44,990 --> 01:23:43,260
understanding is that that was what He

2157
01:23:47,810 --> 01:23:45,000
was discussing on The Joe Rogan podcast

2158
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:47,820
that has not been published for one

2159
01:23:52,610 --> 01:23:51,120
reason or another so hopefully that will

2160
01:23:54,290 --> 01:23:52,620
come out and we'll learn more about what

2161
01:23:56,810 --> 01:23:54,300
he's saying

2162
01:23:59,209 --> 01:23:56,820
um I'm interested but I'm not convinced

2163
01:24:02,990 --> 01:23:59,219
yet so we'll we'll see

2164
01:24:05,149 --> 01:24:03,000
but final final question about this

2165
01:24:07,610 --> 01:24:05,159
and then I'm going to go to Dave on this

2166
01:24:09,709 --> 01:24:07,620
did do you believe do you believe

2167
01:24:11,870 --> 01:24:09,719
without knowing we realize Nobody Knows

2168
01:24:14,030 --> 01:24:11,880
the answer do you believe he used the

2169
01:24:16,490 --> 01:24:14,040
same technology potentially that the

2170
01:24:18,169 --> 01:24:16,500
Egyptians did I think these use the same

2171
01:24:21,050 --> 01:24:18,179
principles I would think the technology

2172
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,060
could be different as long as you uh

2173
01:24:25,610 --> 01:24:23,520
utilize the underlying principle behind

2174
01:24:27,770 --> 01:24:25,620
whatever that tool was

2175
01:24:29,689 --> 01:24:27,780
um fair enough I can use it now I can

2176
01:24:31,130 --> 01:24:29,699
use a screw to secure two pieces of wood

2177
01:24:32,570 --> 01:24:31,140
they're two different Technologies they

2178
01:24:34,729 --> 01:24:32,580
serve the same purpose he might have

2179
01:24:38,090 --> 01:24:34,739
figured out one way to do it but the

2180
01:24:39,410 --> 01:24:38,100
principle stays the same regardless and

2181
01:24:41,090 --> 01:24:39,420
for the for the audience out there that

2182
01:24:42,770 --> 01:24:41,100
doesn't know or even members of the

2183
01:24:45,290 --> 01:24:42,780
panel that don't know Dan is an engineer

2184
01:24:48,890 --> 01:24:45,300
by trade so that's why this is of

2185
01:24:51,290 --> 01:24:48,900
extreme interest not a good one but I am

2186
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:51,300
one I don't believe that for a second go

2187
01:24:54,169 --> 01:24:52,320
ahead Dave

2188
01:24:55,970 --> 01:24:54,179
yeah well I think Dan's covered it

2189
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:55,980
pretty well I mean to be honest with you

2190
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,560
if you read the story and things you

2191
01:25:02,750 --> 01:25:00,719
think I can't be for real this bloke no

2192
01:25:05,270 --> 01:25:02,760
no no he has a lot of Hallmarks you can

2193
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,280
use a lot of cobbler to be honest but

2194
01:25:09,290 --> 01:25:07,920
there is I think the core story and what

2195
01:25:11,870 --> 01:25:09,300
he's done and I've read it and I was

2196
01:25:14,450 --> 01:25:11,880
very skeptical I think he as Dan says he

2197
01:25:17,090 --> 01:25:14,460
must have had some technique but he was

2198
01:25:18,890 --> 01:25:17,100
using I wondered in my guilty pleasures

2199
01:25:20,510 --> 01:25:18,900
of thinking about this whether he

2200
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,520
discovered something I found something

2201
01:25:24,770 --> 01:25:22,560
that he was able to use to move it but

2202
01:25:27,050 --> 01:25:24,780
that's just massive maybe it's just a

2203
01:25:28,430 --> 01:25:27,060
romantic view of it that but yeah he

2204
01:25:30,410 --> 01:25:28,440
definitely could there seems to be

2205
01:25:32,209 --> 01:25:30,420
enough but he could move it well I saw

2206
01:25:33,709 --> 01:25:32,219
those pieces of coral or Hollow really

2207
01:25:36,530 --> 01:25:33,719
and we don't realize you know when he

2208
01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:36,540
didn't but uh heavy as hell yeah yeah

2209
01:25:43,130 --> 01:25:39,840
exactly so I think he's I think he

2210
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,140
he did able down I think the most likely

2211
01:25:48,410 --> 01:25:45,360
is that he had discovered some sort of

2212
01:25:50,750 --> 01:25:48,420
principle or if he some sort of tool but

2213
01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:50,760
he cracked it it's so irritating though

2214
01:25:54,830 --> 01:25:52,320
I'm sure it was more irritating for him

2215
01:25:57,229 --> 01:25:54,840
but he died you know without revealing

2216
01:25:58,729 --> 01:25:57,239
he's without telling anybody I mean that

2217
01:26:02,090 --> 01:25:58,739
was I remember I've often thought about

2218
01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:02,100
that if it was true so I can't quite

2219
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:04,320
bring myself to believe it DJ but I

2220
01:26:09,470 --> 01:26:07,920
think if you were to ask me to bet me

2221
01:26:12,050 --> 01:26:09,480
out on it I probably would have to say

2222
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:12,060
yes I do believe it but uh I would but I

2223
01:26:15,490 --> 01:26:13,320
wouldn't bet me out in it I'd have to

2224
01:26:18,169 --> 01:26:15,500
leave the room at that point but uh that

2225
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:18,179
yeah so I think there's a lot to it but

2226
01:26:23,570 --> 01:26:21,360
it feels I'm not entirely convinced

2227
01:26:26,510 --> 01:26:23,580
I can't say why but I'm not

2228
01:26:28,129 --> 01:26:26,520
oh that's that's fair enough uh to me I

2229
01:26:29,810 --> 01:26:28,139
mean kind of like what we do here is

2230
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:29,820
kind of try to figure out things that we

2231
01:26:34,250 --> 01:26:32,400
don't know and there's so much that we

2232
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:34,260
there's so much more that we don't know

2233
01:26:41,090 --> 01:26:37,440
than what we do know and so I'm assuming

2234
01:26:43,189 --> 01:26:41,100
uh based on at least the the the uh

2235
01:26:45,530 --> 01:26:43,199
anecdotal historic slash historical

2236
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:45,540
record that he was able to move and cut

2237
01:26:49,370 --> 01:26:47,280
these stones without power tools and all

2238
01:26:53,390 --> 01:26:49,380
that that he must have figured out so

2239
01:26:56,209 --> 01:26:53,400
something that the as Dan said it may be

2240
01:26:58,250 --> 01:26:56,219
been the principles uh even if he didn't

2241
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:58,260
employ them in the exact same way he

2242
01:27:02,990 --> 01:27:00,000
used those principles to do things that

2243
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:03,000
one man could not do which is just it's

2244
01:27:06,830 --> 01:27:05,520
a modern Marvel it's not a miracle

2245
01:27:08,930 --> 01:27:06,840
because

2246
01:27:11,390 --> 01:27:08,940
if if other people could figure out how

2247
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,400
to do it uh then we could we could

2248
01:27:17,090 --> 01:27:13,920
replicate that but what I'd like to do

2249
01:27:18,669 --> 01:27:17,100
now is uh let's put us all on here let

2250
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:18,679
me see if I can

2251
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:21,120
uh let's see if we could do this get

2252
01:27:25,550 --> 01:27:23,520
everybody on screen so we can go with

2253
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:25,560
cabbie goodbyes and we'll start with

2254
01:27:32,030 --> 01:27:27,360
Dave to Dan Dan to Dave and then we'll

2255
01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:34,430
you've lost me DJ sorry okay well look

2256
01:27:38,510 --> 01:27:36,719
so basically uh you know if you want to

2257
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:38,520
say anything final to Dan Dan will say

2258
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:40,800
something to you we're saying goodbye to

2259
01:27:44,629 --> 01:27:43,440
our audience uh and and uh thank you to

2260
01:27:46,250 --> 01:27:44,639
one another but we're going to start

2261
01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:46,260
with the two guests

2262
01:27:51,169 --> 01:27:48,960
uh yeah I think uh I think we've sort of

2263
01:27:52,610 --> 01:27:51,179
covered it really I think it's I think

2264
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:52,620
it's a fascinating subject there's

2265
01:27:56,209 --> 01:27:54,480
enough indicators of the different

2266
01:27:58,669 --> 01:27:56,219
Advanced set they could have used but

2267
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:58,679
there'd be something to it I mean how

2268
01:28:03,290 --> 01:28:00,239
did the fact is how did they move those

2269
01:28:04,610 --> 01:28:03,300
stones how did the do those cuts the

2270
01:28:07,550 --> 01:28:04,620
evidence that we said there's enough of

2271
01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:07,560
a car those vases uh and there's a thing

2272
01:28:10,850 --> 01:28:08,940
called Terror praise you know it's a

2273
01:28:12,229 --> 01:28:10,860
very advanced soil that they found

2274
01:28:13,790 --> 01:28:12,239
around the world it's got these

2275
01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:13,800
brilliant properties could already be

2276
01:28:18,410 --> 01:28:16,800
made by sophisticated uh process and

2277
01:28:21,050 --> 01:28:18,420
it's all over the place and it's tens of

2278
01:28:22,370 --> 01:28:21,060
thousand years old to me that's proof I

2279
01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:22,380
got I should have gone into it more on

2280
01:28:26,090 --> 01:28:24,239
the show but anyway so I think there's

2281
01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:26,100
enough proof

2282
01:28:32,030 --> 01:28:29,760
to show that something happened and uh I

2283
01:28:33,470 --> 01:28:32,040
think we just we just don't want to

2284
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:33,480
acknowledge it really and I think it's

2285
01:28:37,490 --> 01:28:35,040
one of those things that will come out

2286
01:28:38,930 --> 01:28:37,500
over time but inevitably what we think

2287
01:28:41,090 --> 01:28:38,940
about will probably be wrong but this

2288
01:28:43,129 --> 01:28:41,100
has been a really good I was wondering

2289
01:28:45,410 --> 01:28:43,139
how the chat was going to go in terms of

2290
01:28:46,970 --> 01:28:45,420
covering the issues but I think we've

2291
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,980
got a lot we've covered a lot of the

2292
01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:48,480
good stuff and it's great to wear down

2293
01:28:51,890 --> 01:28:50,639
because down down does some really great

2294
01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:51,900
stuff on this and I really enjoy

2295
01:28:56,510 --> 01:28:54,239
watching this stuff so he's really

2296
01:28:58,370 --> 01:28:56,520
pushing it in a relevant way so that

2297
01:28:59,689 --> 01:28:58,380
people can understand it so yeah I've

2298
01:29:02,510 --> 01:28:59,699
really enjoyed it

2299
01:29:03,890 --> 01:29:02,520
damn all right so I'll I'll say this

2300
01:29:06,410 --> 01:29:03,900
like um

2301
01:29:07,729 --> 01:29:06,420
each one of us can talk about music

2302
01:29:10,129 --> 01:29:07,739
together

2303
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:10,139
but it's not very often when you have

2304
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:13,199
like a high level musician talk to

2305
01:29:16,490 --> 01:29:14,880
another high level musician the

2306
01:29:18,290 --> 01:29:16,500
conversation that those two people have

2307
01:29:19,930 --> 01:29:18,300
completely different than the

2308
01:29:24,830 --> 01:29:19,940
conversation that they can have with me

2309
01:29:27,770 --> 01:29:24,840
I don't know musical uh actual

2310
01:29:29,450 --> 01:29:27,780
code whatever they call it I'm so I'm so

2311
01:29:30,590 --> 01:29:29,460
out of music I don't know anything about

2312
01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:30,600
it but

2313
01:29:37,010 --> 01:29:33,840
um I can't talk to a polished musician

2314
01:29:38,810 --> 01:29:37,020
and have an interesting conversation I

2315
01:29:40,729 --> 01:29:38,820
can't talk about megalithic structures

2316
01:29:43,129 --> 01:29:40,739
to most people because they don't have

2317
01:29:45,530 --> 01:29:43,139
that depth of knowledge about the

2318
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:45,540
subject when I talked to Dave when I

2319
01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:47,760
read his article I was like check check

2320
01:29:51,709 --> 01:29:49,560
everything he was saying it was like in

2321
01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:51,719
my wheelhouse so it's fun to be able to

2322
01:29:58,970 --> 01:29:55,440
talk to someone like Dave because he is

2323
01:30:01,490 --> 01:29:58,980
his knowledge level is at at where mine

2324
01:30:03,290 --> 01:30:01,500
is I prop his is above mine I'll go

2325
01:30:05,510 --> 01:30:03,300
ahead and say that but it's great to be

2326
01:30:07,970 --> 01:30:05,520
able to have have be able to have this

2327
01:30:09,649 --> 01:30:07,980
depth of a conversation with someone

2328
01:30:12,050 --> 01:30:09,659
like Dave so it's been really enjoyable

2329
01:30:13,610 --> 01:30:12,060
to to do this

2330
01:30:16,189 --> 01:30:13,620
um and I thank you guys for bringing me

2331
01:30:19,729 --> 01:30:16,199
on and what I'm hoping that we get the

2332
01:30:21,770 --> 01:30:19,739
most out of for people that know me I

2333
01:30:23,090 --> 01:30:21,780
make a lot of videos about UFOs and the

2334
01:30:25,189 --> 01:30:23,100
news that's going on around her right

2335
01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:25,199
now my dream would be to one day be able

2336
01:30:28,910 --> 01:30:26,880
to start to make videos about ancient

2337
01:30:30,770 --> 01:30:28,920
structures ancient civilizations things

2338
01:30:32,689 --> 01:30:30,780
like that but I I feel like that

2339
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:32,699
requires traveling and I just can't do

2340
01:30:39,290 --> 01:30:35,280
that right now but my hope for the

2341
01:30:41,570 --> 01:30:39,300
entire UFO subject when it plays out is

2342
01:30:44,990 --> 01:30:41,580
that we do end up learning more about

2343
01:30:46,970 --> 01:30:45,000
our past that our future and our past

2344
01:30:49,010 --> 01:30:46,980
are going to combine

2345
01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:49,020
and it's going to come in the form of a

2346
01:30:53,390 --> 01:30:52,080
UFO I don't know it makes sense to me I

2347
01:30:55,790 --> 01:30:53,400
hope it makes sense to you guys but

2348
01:30:58,010 --> 01:30:55,800
thank you guys for your time uh enjoyed

2349
01:31:00,350 --> 01:30:58,020
it and hope everyone has a good day

2350
01:31:03,050 --> 01:31:00,360
thank you Dan we will we will do it

2351
01:31:04,669 --> 01:31:03,060
again this was a part one we can do it

2352
01:31:07,010 --> 01:31:04,679
again when you and Dave want to come

2353
01:31:08,750 --> 01:31:07,020
back and do another one and uh and uh

2354
01:31:10,610 --> 01:31:08,760
let me let with our cabbie goodbyes

2355
01:31:12,649 --> 01:31:10,620
we'll go to Davey first and then uh

2356
01:31:15,229 --> 01:31:12,659
Frank and then Debs

2357
01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:15,239
I'd like to say to Dave and Dan thank

2358
01:31:20,149 --> 01:31:17,040
you so much for sharing your knowledge

2359
01:31:21,890 --> 01:31:20,159
your expertise your Insight with us I've

2360
01:31:23,870 --> 01:31:21,900
realized I've got a load more reading

2361
01:31:25,610 --> 01:31:23,880
and learning I need to do go away and

2362
01:31:27,229 --> 01:31:25,620
dig into this

2363
01:31:29,930 --> 01:31:27,239
um and I'd also like to say a huge thank

2364
01:31:31,430 --> 01:31:29,940
you to my beautiful cabbie family for

2365
01:31:33,169 --> 01:31:31,440
allowing me to sit at the cabbie table

2366
01:31:35,810 --> 01:31:33,179
for this one thank you guys and girls

2367
01:31:38,330 --> 01:31:35,820
always honor

2368
01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:38,340
Franklin yeah brilliant I just want to

2369
01:31:43,610 --> 01:31:40,560
say I mean obviously myself and Dave

2370
01:31:46,850 --> 01:31:43,620
speak near enough every day about stuff

2371
01:31:49,189 --> 01:31:46,860
to do with UFOs and we've spoken quite a

2372
01:31:51,290 --> 01:31:49,199
lot uh over the years about ancient

2373
01:31:53,629 --> 01:31:51,300
civilizations and things as well

2374
01:31:56,149 --> 01:31:53,639
um but Dan um I've obviously seen your

2375
01:31:57,649 --> 01:31:56,159
videos about UFOs but it was brilliant

2376
01:31:59,570 --> 01:31:57,659
to hear you talking about all this and

2377
01:32:01,669 --> 01:31:59,580
you're clearly super knowledgeable about

2378
01:32:03,830 --> 01:32:01,679
it so yeah just thank you for for all of

2379
01:32:05,689 --> 01:32:03,840
your input and it's been a real pleasure

2380
01:32:08,689 --> 01:32:05,699
and I've never actually heard of the

2381
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:08,699
Coral Castle ever before today so now I

2382
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:10,320
really want to go there and I'm going to

2383
01:32:14,810 --> 01:32:12,480
be on some website trying to book

2384
01:32:16,790 --> 01:32:14,820
flights after this so um yeah say a

2385
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:16,800
prayer for my bank account and uh thank

2386
01:32:21,590 --> 01:32:18,480
you everybody

2387
01:32:24,950 --> 01:32:21,600
Debs yep I wanted to say thank you I

2388
01:32:27,229 --> 01:32:24,960
agree with the way that UFOs actually

2389
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:27,239
lead us to study ourselves it's really

2390
01:32:31,970 --> 01:32:29,280
interesting how that happens it's almost

2391
01:32:34,250 --> 01:32:31,980
like a magnifying glass on Humanity when

2392
01:32:36,950 --> 01:32:34,260
we look at UFOs and the universe

2393
01:32:39,050 --> 01:32:36,960
so I um appreciate that you're helping

2394
01:32:42,770 --> 01:32:39,060
us to understand some of those Mysteries

2395
01:32:48,649 --> 01:32:45,470
I want to thank I'm sorry thank you

2396
01:32:50,870 --> 01:32:48,659
Matt just said my pleasure yeah and I

2397
01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:50,880
was going to say uh I'm so lucky to have

2398
01:32:54,129 --> 01:32:52,560
such an amazing group of friends that we

2399
01:32:56,930 --> 01:32:54,139
could do something like this because

2400
01:32:59,090 --> 01:32:56,940
Nathan and I can Endeavor to bring you

2401
01:33:00,649 --> 01:32:59,100
ancient structures but without you we

2402
01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:00,659
couldn't have brought you ancient

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structures because we don't know enough

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about it so we brought you guys here

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today so that you can educate not only

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us but also the audience about it and

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that we can Branch out from just doing

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UFOs we're going to talk about Bigfoot

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we're going to bring you paranormal

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conversation and we've also booked some

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great UFO guests as well just so that we

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can keep the conversation going into to

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more broader areas so this is exactly

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what I envisioned it was going to be

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when uh when I kind of set this up with

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you too so thank you very much give us a

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like give us a subscribe we're going to

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have Dave's details including his uh

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paper that you guys can read in the show

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notes we're going to have Dan's linktree

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in the show notes so go and check out

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his is Tick Tock and absolutely Dan life

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is really short and if you want to talk

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ancient structures and do videos about

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01:33:59,390 --> 01:33:56,940
them absolutely do them and know that

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anytime you want to bring that over here

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we're we're ready for that so if you so

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choose so okay absolutely noted

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so for uh Dave for Dan for Davey Our

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Guest cabbie today our new cabbie Frank

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for Debs for money Nathan and Leah Prime

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who could not be here and Matt Knapp uh

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our Bigfoot uh correspondent as we call

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him uh this is DJ saying peace out one

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love we'll see you down the road and as